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Old 09-20-2018, 04:20 PM   #11
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for every accident where the rv "vaporized" there are a dozen where the rv was only totaled but still towable, or able to be pulled onto a flatbed tow, ( just like any car, truck).

not trying to start anything. just saying.
i for one, if nothing more the gen safety, would not want anybody in my rv while going down any rd or hwy.
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Old 09-20-2018, 04:43 PM   #12
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for every accident where the rv "vaporized" there are a dozen where the rv was only totaled but still towable, or able to be pulled onto a flatbed tow, ( just like any car, truck).

not trying to start anything. just saying.
i for one, if nothing more the gen safety, would not want anybody in my rv while going down any rd or hwy.
That may be true?? but in my real life experience as related in another thread, I've seen 4 on the road accidents with an RV, none of which were going to go anywhere on a flatbed or....their wheels for that matter. Maybe not "vaporized" (thinking "The Rock" movie with Nicholas Cage), but certainly pretty much disintegrated. So, I'm still looking for those other 48 limping home while being towed...Ö.
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:54 AM   #13
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35 years ago my dad towed our 19' camper from MO to CA and back. I rode in the camper in any state that allowed it - my parents were happy to remove the teenager from the tow vehicle. And I slept quite well back there!
Of course I also used lie on the rear package shelf of the Fairmont in 70's. Or standing in the backseat.
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Old 09-21-2018, 06:39 AM   #14
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John, back in 1983 there were 2.6 deaths per ever 100 million miles driven, whereas today the figure is 1.2. I believe seatbelts (and no kids in the RV in most states) probably is the reason. I suppose I better throw in riding in the bed of the pickup....(guilty)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_...n_U.S._by_year
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Old 09-21-2018, 01:25 PM   #15
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John, back in 1983 there were 2.6 deaths per ever 100 million miles driven, whereas today the figure is 1.2. I believe seatbelts (and no kids in the RV in most states) probably is the reason. I suppose I better throw in riding in the bed of the pickup....(guilty)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_...n_U.S._by_year
I'm certainly no expert in the subject but I think the higher number of air bags, crumple zones, etc. may have had an impact (I know, horrible pun) on the reduction of deaths.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:29 PM   #16
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I always thought that rope across the back of the front seat in Dad's '56 Buick was for holding onto while standing!
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Old 09-22-2018, 05:24 AM   #17
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Yes I remember sleeping on the rear shelf of my dad's 1959 Ford. Also rode bikes (very aggressively) without suiting up like a hockey goalie. Heck, even rode barefoot! I can also remember injuries being a learning experience and unless a bone was poking out no medical services were called for. With that being said, I'm all for safety but in today's world of litigation and seemingly NO ONE taking personal responsibility for their actions the mindset has shifted to the pendulum swinging over to placing people in a protective bubble. It used to be dad or friend's dad might let you ride in the bed of the pickup to the cg store , or mayme to get wood. If you asked to ride the 100 Miles home back there he had (or maye mom had) the common sense to say no, it's too dangerous. Seems to me today we expect to have a label or training/safety video warning you not to do that under penalty of a dozen laws. O.K. rant over. If I've offended anyone I apologize, I haven't been to sensitivity training in a while but let me know how your therapy goes and post a pick of your "and dog gonnit I'm a good person trophy."
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:00 AM   #18
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A couple years ago I bought a back blade for my tractor from a nephew. It was under a tree behind his pole barn which was on the back of his property. We hitched the trailer to my truck, pulled it behind his pole barn and dug the backblade out of the snow and fallen leaves. After loading it on the trailer (3 of us) my nephew and his son decided to just sit on the trailer rather than "dirty up my truck seats"... Made sense to all of us, so they climbed on the trailer to ride the 100 yards or so to the house. Well as we rounded the front of the house, there was a police car going down the street, so they both bailed off the trailer (to avoid a ticket if the cop happened to see them on the trailer)....

To make a long story short, well shorter, IMHO they both were at significantly greater risk of getting hurt jumping off a moving trailer (maybe 3 or 4 MPH) than just sitting there, feet dangling off the sides of my flatbed trailer....

Sometimes there's a direct opposition between common sense, laws and reality..... YMMV
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