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10-02-2017, 03:47 PM
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17 334fwfls
Just brought her home on Friday. Pull it with a 2017 Silverado 1500 6.2l max trailering. 5000lb air-maxx bags.
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10-02-2017, 03:52 PM
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Very nice!!
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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10-02-2017, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member
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Congratulations Happy camping
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10-03-2017, 04:19 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Solomons
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Welcome to the forum from Southern MD. Enjoy your new rig.
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10-03-2017, 04:39 PM
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Location: Napa
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Very nice unit your going to love it. My wife and I got one last spring and it has been great.
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10-03-2017, 05:03 PM
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Congrats from Western PA !!
Enjoy your new rig
Be Safe and Happy Camping
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2013 RAPTOR 300MP w/Rear Patio Deck NO Folding Side Ladder
2013 Silverado 3500HD LTZ CC LB 4X4 DRW
Duramax 6.6L Turbo Diesel; Allison Trans
Reese 20K; Carlisle Radial Trail RH/HD; TPMS (12 Tires)
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10-03-2017, 10:49 PM
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Welcome and congrats on your new 5er. Just took a glance at your coach's dry weights and that's some big "house on wheels" for a 1500 truck. At over 37 feet long and having a GVWR of 13,500 lbs with 20% (or 2,700 lbs) on the hitch, I'm not sure your truck is capable of handling that much load. Remember, airbags don't add to manufacturer's specifications. Axle weights, payloads, GVWRs, and GCWR's can't be altered.
As a community that promotes safe towing practices, members here will give you honest insight as we all share the road together. Last thing you or anyone wants is a catastrophic failure due to an overloaded scenario.
Good luck and again, welcome.
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2017 Keystone Bullet 308BHS in Saddle.
2017 RAM 2500 Laramie Mega Cab 4x4 Hemi 6.4L
2008 GMC Yukon XL Denali (SOLD)
Hensley SwiftArrow Control Hitch with 1000 lb Spring Bars
Me, DW, (3) little DS's, and 1 rambunctious Boston Terrier
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10-04-2017, 01:43 AM
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Welcome to the forum from Michigan! Enjoy your new RV! Happy Camping!
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10-04-2017, 03:35 AM
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congrats on new rv & welcome enjoy
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10-04-2017, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by busterbrown
Welcome and congrats on your new 5er. Just took a glance at your coach's dry weights and that's some big "house on wheels" for a 1500 truck. At over 37 feet long and having a GVWR of 13,500 lbs with 20% (or 2,700 lbs) on the hitch, I'm not sure your truck is capable of handling that much load. Remember, airbags don't add to manufacturer's specifications. Axle weights, payloads, GVWRs, and GCWR's can't be altered.
As a community that promotes safe towing practices, members here will give you honest insight as we all share the road together. Last thing you or anyone wants is a catastrophic failure due to an overloaded scenario.
Good luck and again, welcome.
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^^^^^x2 what busterbrown said. That trailer is too much for a 1/2 ton IMO. You need to look at the weights on your door, or better yet, hit a scale with the weights on the door, and see where you are. I'm not aware of a 1/2 ton truck with a 3500 lb+ payload which is about what you would need to take care of the pin weight, hitch, people and other "stuff". Sorry to dampen your spirits but the observations are made to make you aware of the problem and keep you, and others, safe.
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10-04-2017, 12:52 PM
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Ok. Do you know what dry weight is? Do you know how much weight people actually add to the units. Not that much. Already had it weighed with stuff in it. And is still under max tow rating. One more question. Do you know what my 1500 is rated at for towing. Just curious.
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10-04-2017, 12:52 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Clio
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Ok. Thanks. Again. Learn what my truck can pull before speaking up.
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10-04-2017, 12:53 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Clio
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And hitch weight on this unit is 2100. And dealer wouldn’t have sold it to me if truck can’t legally. Pull it.
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10-04-2017, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Winnipeg, MB
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I won't comment on the weight issue as you stated I don't have the specs on your truck or 5'er. I will comment on the dealer comment. No dealer is legally liable for selling you a unit they will and do say whatever they can to make a sale. They frequently tell people you will be fine with that setup when in actuality they are not. While the truck may pull it is it legal, that responsibility falls on the owner and the owner alone. Nice truck and 5'er happy trails my friend.
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10-04-2017, 01:07 PM
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Exactly. Thanks.
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10-04-2017, 02:56 PM
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Location: SE Michigan
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If you're inclined to convey defensive statements, then begin with justifying your comments by offering up your truck's specifications.
From the www, the max payload on a 2017 Chevy Silverado 2WD Double Cab Standard Box is 2160 lbs. This is the highest payload I could find on a base 1500 series truck with the 6.2L/8 speed powertrain with Max trailering package. All other configurations and added options lower payload capacities below 2,000 lbs.
With that said, the dry weight of a 334fwfls is 10,120 lbs with a pin weight of 2,110 lbs. Yours may differ by a few lbs. When loaded to it's gross vehicle weight allowance, the numbers explode to 13,500 lbs and approximately 20% of that as pin weight (2,700 lbs).
So, in essence, before adding lead acid batteries, LPG, and a 'required' 5th wheel hitch, you have approximately 50 lbs of capacity remaining if you dropped the king pin in the bed of your truck. Remember, any cargo, passengers, and equipment in the truck take away from the payload.
I've always been a proponent of 1/2 ton trucks moving trailers within manufacturer's specs. I think many underestimate the ability of these full size trucks as they have come a long way in the last 10-15 years. Go drive a 90's half ton and see when I mean.
But, and it's a big "BUT", I'm not a proponent of exceeding limits on a truck's capabilities. Axles have limits; frames have limits; powertrains have limits; braking components have limits. If these specifications are exceeded, the risk of failure increases exponentially.
Remember, RV dealers are in the business to sell coaches. They are not there to educate you on safe towing practices. When I bought my couch, the dealer was honest enough to state "some people are comfortable towing a 35 ft tow behind; others are not". "It's not my job to determine that".
Truck dealers have similar business models. If they know you're interested, they are more apt to tell you a certain truck can pull the "Titanic". As previously mentioned, due diligence falls on the owner of vehicles, not on the respective sellers.
Good luck and stay safe.
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2017 Keystone Bullet 308BHS in Saddle.
2017 RAM 2500 Laramie Mega Cab 4x4 Hemi 6.4L
2008 GMC Yukon XL Denali (SOLD)
Hensley SwiftArrow Control Hitch with 1000 lb Spring Bars
Me, DW, (3) little DS's, and 1 rambunctious Boston Terrier
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10-04-2017, 03:34 PM
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Location: W. Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morley8065
And hitch weight on this unit is 2100. And dealer wouldn’t have sold it to me if truck can’t legally. Pull it.
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I won't comment on this further after this post because I believe you have been provided the information you need to know that you're going to be overweight; anything beyond that is your decision.
You state the hitch weight of the unit is 2100; that's dry as stated on the Keystone website. That also goes straight against your payload (on the door sticker). Buster did some digging and the VERY BEST payload for your style of truck is 2160 lbs; for a basic, stripped 2wd truck. All the rest were below 2000 - your truck looks to be 4x4 so it will probably be below 2000 lbs. So, as soon as you put the pin in the bed with not a thing else you are overloaded. Add the hitch, batteries, LP and you are well overweight - and you haven't put a thing in the trailer....or in the truck; including people.
Looking at the picture it also appears you may still have the factory tires on the pickup. If so it is doubtful they are adequate to carry that kind of load.
I hope you will do your due diligence and get the numbers together so you can see where you are. Don't assume you "won't carry anything" in the trailer...you will....and lots of it, especially in a rig that big.....you can't help it, unless you go everywhere with literally nothing; clothes, pots/pans.... nothing. You didn't say if you have family that will go with you, but if you do, you need to think of them as well. When your truck breaks under something that big at speed ain't nothing good gonna happen.
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10-04-2017, 05:11 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Solomons
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17 334fwfls
I might have missed it but I don't think anyone mentioned the GCWR of the truck. My Silverado had a 15000 GCWR and the truck weighed in loaded at about 5960. You should keep that in mind too. Enjoy and travel safely.
2016 Passport GT 2810BHS, 2016 F350 CC DRW
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2019 Alpine 3651RL
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10-28-2017, 04:10 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Columbia
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Enjoy your new rig, We got ours in September and love it. Have not been camping in it yet, Irma took care of that but we brought it home and have it in the back yard. Just got some trees cut down to make it easier to park it and am waiting for a crew to show up to put in a concrete pad. My security is an 80 lb Lab/Pitbull mix. I wont get into the TV discussion, I have a 2017 F250 6.2, I hardly knew it was behind me on the 200 mile trip home. We have just about everything in it we need to camp so I hope we will take it out for a weekend in a couple of weeks.
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