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06-04-2016, 09:17 AM
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Junior Member
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Location: Naples, FL
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Originally Posted by sourdough
...If the dealer has the trailer ask him for a copy of the build sheet that came with the trailer. It will look sort of like the option sheet you attached but it won't have the other models, it should have the VIN of the trailer and then all the options as it came from the factory...
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OK, that means that a trailer have a kind of window sticker with the VIN number which shows the factory options.
The trailer arrived the dealership last weekend on Tuesday I visit CW to have a first look of our new trailer and the first thing which I realized was that the trailer didn't have a booth instead the free standing dinette and no 2. AC.
In the moment when I asked about this options the sales manager told me that Keystone usually delivers this kind of trailers with the booth and no 2. AC and CW would install it later.
I responded him that I cant believe it that this is the usually way, but if they change it professional it would be OK for me.
I also asked him if the trailer have the "canadian compliance" which I ordered because friends from us lives there and maybe they would take the trailer after a couple of years and they told me "of course".
But I didn't fall from the tree because somebody shake it.
I think I cant trust this guy anymore and because of this I have to check all the options which I payed for and for this reason I need to prepared for the pickup.
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06-04-2016, 09:22 AM
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If you are at a CW there should be your salesman, a sales manager and then the GM of the store. If the salesman won't give you the spec sheet for the trailer he's trying to give you ask to see the sales manager. If that doesn't work, introduce yourself to the GM and tell him your problem. When they give you the spec sheet and it doesn't match what you ordered, there is a problem and I don't think I would let the salesman be the one to explain it; that should be done by the GM. If his folks aren't doing their jobs, or trying to pull something, he needs to be aware.
I don't know where the dealership is from you but they should be able to scan the spec sheet and send it to you electronicall so you can review it without having to go there.
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06-04-2016, 10:32 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Naples, FL
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When se give me the call that the trailer is ready for pickup I take my time to check everything without rush.
The good think is, they like to have a cashiers check with shows al little bit over 28k to be happy but they will not get this money until I'm happy to.
Maybe I go first to my bank, pick up the amount in cash so that I can reduce the payment if necessary.
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06-04-2016, 11:23 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Virginia Beach, Va
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I wouldn't doubt that the trailer they are trying to pass on to you is not the trailer you ordered but a unit they were expecting for inventory already. I've seen this happen in the car industry.
I'd either hold out for the unit built to spec at the factory or get my money back and go somewhere else
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06-04-2016, 05:25 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofy
When se give me the call that the trailer is ready for pickup I take my time to check everything without rush.
The good think is, they like to have a cashiers check with shows al little bit over 28k to be happy but they will not get this money until I'm happy to.
Maybe I go first to my bank, pick up the amount in cash so that I can reduce the payment if necessary.
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Don't go to the bank and get cash; just not a good idea.
Communicate up front about the spec sheet and providing it to you. Tell them you will not come get the trailer until they provide you that spec sheet. If it's close, go to the dealership, start at the salesman, insist on the sales manager and then insist on the general manager. I've heard about dealerships trying to pull a fast one but I've never encountered it; it really sounds like they are trying to slip something by you....don't let them do it. Stick with the suggestions here, make them "show the money" (spec list) and get in their business. There ARE bad dealerships; I hope you haven't encountered one.
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06-04-2016, 06:56 PM
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Site Team
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Location: Modesto
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2. A/C installed by the manufacture vs. installed by the dealership
Build sheet will have the trailer VIN and any appliance by brand, model number and serial number. The axle serial numbers are on that sheet as well.
I wish I was in Florida, I would gladly go to the dealer with you and figure this out.
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06-05-2016, 06:38 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Southeastern Connectiut
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Your question about a list of available options, and standard features should be available in the brochure or pamphlet from the manufacturer for your specific trailer. You can also find it on the internet at
http://www.keystonerv.com/cougar-xlite/
Good luck,
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06-05-2016, 07:33 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Naples, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckster57
...I wish I was in Florida, I would gladly go to the dealer with you and figure this out.
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If I would now somebody near Fort Myers I would ask him to come with me to the dealership.
Last week at the first "showing" of the trailer I saw in the first moment that the trailer isn't as I ordered it.
I check the trailer and the GM Manager always walk behind me and to do so that everything is OK he try to make conversation how nice the trailer is, always bla,bla,bla...
Maybe it's was a mix between "look there is a stupid alien" and that my english sounds like a uneducated guy, that they think they can play with me... but they are totally wrong.
I didn't take the unit until everything in the trailer is how I ordered it or they reduce the final payment!
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06-05-2016, 07:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Tidewater Area Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofy
If I would now somebody near Fort Myers I would ask him to come with me to the dealership.
Last week at the first "showing" of the trailer I saw in the first moment that the trailer isn't as I ordered it.
I check the trailer and the GM Manager always walk behind me and to do so that everything is OK he try to make conversation how nice the trailer is, always bla,bla,bla...
Maybe it's was a mix between "look there is a stupid alien" and that my english sounds like a uneducated guy, that they think they can play with me... but they are totally wrong.
I didn't take the unit until everything in the trailer is how I ordered it or they reduce the final payment!
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That right there seems to tell me something. They should be showing you how everything works and that everything works and that everything you ordered, especially options, are there, not going blah blah blah about how nice it is. I'd be willing to bet he was trying to distract you and I think your feelings about that are right. Stand firm and listen to the advice you have been given here. You deserve to get what you ordered and what you are paying for.
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06-05-2016, 10:24 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Naples, FL
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Thank you all for the good wishes, I hope on the end it works for us and we can leave the place with our trailer and happy customers.
I will keep you up to date (hopefully next week).
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06-05-2016, 04:06 PM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: San Clemente, CA.
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Hopefully you got the 50 amp shore power set up as this was also a selected option. This will surely be needed for two a/c's.
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06-06-2016, 12:10 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Naples, FL
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Yes, at the first visit I saw that the trailer was delivered with 50 amp setup, because the trailer was connected to a power outlet and I saw the 4 pin plug.
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06-09-2016, 09:19 AM
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Gone Traveling
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Highland, IL
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There are two issues in play here:
1. Is the the coach prepped for the 2nd a/c. The answer, based on OP info, is yes.
2. Is the 2nd a/c controlled by a wall thermostat. The answer, based on OP info, is no.
From what I have seen, it depends on the coach whether the 2nd a/c is on a wall thermostat or not. I don't think this has to do with factory install or not. It is either a feature of that particular coach or it isn't.
I have a 2016 Outback. It has a dealer installed 2nd a/c, but is not controlled by a wall thermostat. I don't think that would change if the factory did it.
A comparable Laredo has their "race track" duct that integrates both a/c units. I love this, however I still preferred the Outback.
Whether the 2nd a/c is ducted is yet another question, which the answer is no based on OP. I think this is another coach design issue and not a dealer-vs-factory install issue.
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06-21-2016, 06:24 AM
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Junior Member
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Location: Naples, FL
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Today is the day, we have a appointment to check and hopefully pickup the trailer, keep your fingers crossed.
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06-21-2016, 10:27 AM
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Hope it all works out the way you want. Let us know.
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06-21-2016, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Texas
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I hope that CW has finally made everything right, and that you get the trailer exactly as you ordered it.
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06-24-2016, 02:40 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Naples, FL
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We could pickup the trailer on Tuesday, they had som issues but they fixed it right away.
At the end we get the trailer with all options which we ordered except the canadian compliance but they gave me the money for this option back.
On Sunday we can go on the road wit the trailer.
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06-24-2016, 02:48 PM
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Location: Texas
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Great to hear Goofy. Good job holding firm and making sure that the trailer was outfitted just as you ordered it. Enjoy your travels!
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06-24-2016, 03:29 PM
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Wow, what an ordeal. Let's hope this is the end of any issues. Get on the road and enjoy!!!
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