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Old 02-16-2018, 06:31 AM   #91
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Originally Posted by aaron_huber View Post
Texas does seem very complicated so I'm glad I don't live there. I was curious so I did a little digging about the details, which are spelled out clearly in the registration manual I found at https://www.txdmv.gov/txdmv-forms/do...tration-manual.

To summarize:
  • They clearly define the terms: "GVWR" = the vehicle manufacturer's certified maximum weight rating as specified on the Manufacturer’s Certificate of Origin, and "registration weight" = the weight you've registered the vehicle for. Changing your "registration weight" does not change the "GVWR".
  • The vehicle must be registered for a weight no less than the actual vehicle weight plus a pre-determined minimum "carrying capacity" listed in a table, which explains where the 2000 lbs comes from.
  • The registration weight can be no more than the GVWR. Registering with the registration weight higher than the GVWR won't help you if you're pulled over as you'd be over the "maximum legal load limit".
  • The section labelled "Incorrect Gross Weight (Apprehension)" calls out exactly what happens if you're pulled over - if you're over registration weight but under GVWR, they make you pay to increase your registration weight to match your actual weight. If you are over your GVWR they can park your vehicle until you decrease the weight of it.

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I honestly don't know that it can be explained so that you understand it... The registration for my truck clearly states that the GVWR of this vehicle is 9600 pounds... 7600 + 2000 = 9600 it is WRITTEN on the DOCUMENT the registration of the vehicle is what allows me to drive it on the roads of Texas... why is that difficult to comprehend..

The GVWR that drives the driver's license class requirement is the legal GVWR from the registration... Not the Federal sticker on the door... the truck can the registered for a weight up to that amount and down to a weight based of a chart in the document I've previously posted the link for... which for my truck would be 9600 pounds..
TLDR - You can save some money in Texas by choosing a registration weight less than GVWR as long as you never get pulled over weighing more than that weight.

Again, glad I don't need to deal with this in Oregon.
So the question still remains is the requirements for Class A or B driver DL use the GVWR like the website says or uses the "Register Weight" which Texas call GVW (without the "R" since it means rating). I know Kansas and most states don't care about what it really weights but what is capable of weighting IE GVWR of both the truck and RV..

You lucky that your state doesn't require this because Kansas DVM can't get it straight.

Added on Edit -- Let me say it this way. Your Register Weight CAN be less than your GVWR or the truck but that doesn't change the GVWR or the truck. The Class A and B requirements use the term of GVWR, not Register Weight. Register your truck for less than GVWR of the truck is NOT means to not get a Class A or B DL.
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:01 AM   #92
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Post #89, Aaron Oregon is a lot like Texas. Some on here won't believe a motor vehicle, PUC and motor carrier truck cop, but trust the 2 states they are very much alike. BUT, ALMOST (that means not all) all of that information is directed at MOTOR TRUCKS not pickups. A motor truck is a vehicle 10,000lbs or larger to 26,000 lbs designed to carry a product not passengers. As I said in earlier posts, in Oregon the owner of a 10,000lb plus motor truck and a limited number of pickups must pay for what weight they tell DMV their GVWRs are yearly. DMV takes their word. A 16,000 lb truck is around 400 per year. In this state you are being suckered out of road taxes because many under report on themselves, many buy a passenger plate. Look at all cargo trucks, flatbed, utility bed trucks next time your driving on any road. If they have dual rear tires, are a business vehicle and have the Oregon passenger license plate they are not paying their way. They must have a yellow license plate that starts with T and has numbers after. Those are truck plates. A T plate at 10,000lbs is over 2x that of your pickup for registration fees. Even state troopers do not enforce that law much, there are just too many of them out there and it is a DMV problem. Ever wonder why our roads are so bad?
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:52 PM   #93
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$400 a year??
Glad I don't live in Oregon.
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:49 PM   #94
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Man that's cheap.

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Old 02-16-2018, 07:24 PM   #95
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Then I won't even tell you that I got 2 years in MO for around $170. Yep, not going to say a word....

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Old 02-17-2018, 04:17 PM   #96
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When I joined Escapees several years ago I went to the DPS office in Livingston TX to change my address on my license and registrations. The DPS officer there noticed my address is an Escapees address so he asked me two questions regarding my license. He wanted to know what the GVWR on the truck door says and the GVWR on the trailer says. They totaled 25,400 pounds so he said I was ok with the Class C license I have. He made no mention of actual weights or registered weights.
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