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Old 01-01-2019, 12:51 PM   #1
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Red face Route help?

Traveling from NJ to western Canada/ Alaska... is it better to head north to Montreal and then go west or to stay in the states till the Dakota's and then start north....Retired, Got all the time that "plastic" can provide just want to get in as many sight as possible before it gets cold in the fall
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Old 01-01-2019, 02:25 PM   #2
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I would say 6 of one or half dozen of the other.
If you have all the time in the world, I'd consider the upper route and then dropping down by Winnipeg into the states and cutting back up after going through Glacier NP. You can then turn up towards Bailiff and take the Ice Field parkway up and catch the Alcan highway. Safe travels.
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Old 01-01-2019, 05:40 PM   #3
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Go. North on the way out, south in the way back!! Sounds like a blast!!
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Old 01-01-2019, 06:48 PM   #4
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Never road travelled west of Manitoba, those that have , suggest staying south of border until at least Manitoba. Trek thru Ontario is supposedly one long drive.
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:21 PM   #5
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We traveled west to Idaho, then north into Alberta going to Alaska. Planned to return east through Canada to Thunder Bay, then drop down into the lower 48, but by Saskatchewan we’d had enough. Diesel prices were much higher than in the U.S., roads were not as good and there was very little scenery east of Calgary (similar to crossing the prairies in the U.S.). We did enjoy Calgary, Medicine Hat and Moose Jaw though.
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Old 01-03-2019, 01:39 AM   #6
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Don't think for a minute that southern Minnesota and North/South Dakota are more scenic than Saskatchewan or Manitoba. Both are going to be a stretch for you. Once you have reached the Black Hills then things will change. Or once you reach Calgary things will change. Ontario roads are fine, but mostly two lane after Sudbury. Picture yourself cruising along in Ontario, green forests, blue water, no mosquitos (okay, I'm lying about the mosquitos), a Tim Hortons on every other corner. Or bouncing across northern Indiana, dead smoke stacks, pot holes and oh, yeah, toll booths on every other corner. And then Chicago to look forward to. We have travelled every province in Canada other than Nunavut many times. We will take the Canada route every time. I like the idea of Canada route going, US route returning.
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Old 01-03-2019, 04:40 AM   #7
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The 401 is a train wreck. When I come back from the US I always take 90 to Canadian border at Niagara Falls NY, I live on the East side of the Greater Toronto Area so Kingston ON / Watertown NY is closer, I would rather drive the extra hour each way. The drive along the 401 from Quebec to Detroit is brutal. Ontarian's are not good drivers.
Truckers like to pass up hill on the 2 lane portions of highway, and going through the core of Toronto is something I would never wish on anyone.
Montreal is a nice city though, one of my faves. I take Highway #7, it's a long and winding road, but calm and quaint at points. My daughter goes to university in Ottawa, I take that route to see her.
Toronto is the largest city in Canada, I like it, but I was born here. A few campsites in and around city if you want to spend time here.

The 400 Highway going North from Toronto is okay as long as you are not going up during rush hour (2:30 - 6:30 PM) It is quite scenic going into Northern Ontario as you head to the Trans - Canada Highway # 1

Good luck, have an awesome time, and a safe drive.
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Old 01-03-2019, 04:54 AM   #8
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"Don't think for a minute that southern Minnesota and North/South Dakota are more scenic than Saskatchewan or Manitoba. Both are going to be a stretch for you." From - Jim in Memphis.
If you've got the time and patience, going the Northern route is something I think you have to do once. You will either like it or never do it again. LOL
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Northofu, Kansans only THINK they grow a lot of wheat! Iíve never seen as much as west of Winnipeg. And it goes on for AWHILE!
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Old 01-03-2019, 12:33 PM   #10
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Travel from NJ to and through Chicago are all toll roads unless you take the secondary roads. A decade ago the State of Indiana sold the ITP to a privet firm and the roads are cxxp, and they raised the tolls. Those dead smoke stacks notanlines talked about are coming back to life. (hopefully with new scrubbers attached) You might want to stop at keystone as you pass through. Glacier national park is a must, but...you cannot take a camper over Going to the Sun road.
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