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Old 05-19-2019, 06:00 AM   #21
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Where did you install the back flow valve?
Screwed it directly on the back of the faucet on the hot side, between the faucet and the Pex connection. The threaded part of the faucet was plastic, so I cut/shortened that up some to allow the back-flow to fit inside the wall. If I had better access to the pex inside the wall, I would of mounted it after a 90 elbow, but that would of required me to cut the pex shorter, and I couldn't reach in there to do that.
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:47 AM   #22
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We installed this on our shower and it works perfectly. Set your water temp and then simply turn the water off at this valve. When you turn it back on, same temp, no more cold blast.

http://www.trailerlife.com/tech/10-m...h-wash-and-go/
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:10 AM   #23
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We installed this on our shower and it works perfectly. Set your water temp and then simply turn the water off at this valve. When you turn it back on, same temp, no more cold blast.

http://www.trailerlife.com/tech/10-m...h-wash-and-go/
Thank you for the follow up. Ours didn't arrive in time to install and test on this last trip. Installed last evening after arriving home and tested for leaks but did not get a chance to use it. Glad to hear it works as advertised. A simple fix and no more cold surprises
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Old 06-06-2019, 03:29 PM   #24
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ALL RV'S Shower cold water blast

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Thank you for the follow up. Ours didn't arrive in time to install and test on this last trip. Installed last evening after arriving home and tested for leaks but did not get a chance to use it. Glad to hear it works as advertised. A simple fix and no more cold surprises

Let us know how yours works. I just ordered mine.
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:23 PM   #25
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Will do Tom, Looking forward to our next outing this month.
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Old 09-08-2019, 04:28 PM   #26
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Finally got to thoroughly use and test the shower shut off valve as described in Trailer Life http://www.trailerlife.com/tech/10-m...h-wash-and-go/
Super easy fix to for us, a nagging problem. How to conserve water while showering in a dry camp environment by taking a "Navy" shower and not getting the cold blast when the shower head is turned back on.
The valve installed in minutes between the faucet and the shower hose. No leaks no problems. Once the shower temp is set simply turn the water off and on with the valve instead of the shower head and voila!! No cold blast between washing and rinsing no matter how many times you cycle it off and on.
Bottom line, This Fix Works!!
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Old 09-08-2019, 04:58 PM   #27
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Finally got to thoroughly use and test the shower shut off valve as described in Trailer Life http://www.trailerlife.com/tech/10-m...h-wash-and-go/
Super easy fix to for us, a nagging problem. How to conserve water while showering in a dry camp environment by taking a "Navy" shower and not getting the cold blast when the shower head is turned back on.
The valve installed in minutes between the faucet and the shower hose. No leaks no problems. Once the shower temp is set simply turn the water off and on with the valve instead of the shower head and voila!! No cold blast between washing and rinsing no matter how many times you cycle it off and on.
Bottom line, This Fix Works!!

The link is telling me "Error 404; the link doesn't exist"...??
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:41 PM   #28
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Use the link in post #22, which has the actual full link behind the shortened "..." version.
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Sorry Guys... http://www.trailerlife.com/tech/10-m...h-wash-and-go/
Should get you there
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:13 PM   #30
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Use the link in post #22, which has the actual full link behind the shortened "..." version.
I actually bought this thing based on some post somewhere on the forum. Found it the other day sitting on a counter and asked DW "what is this thing"? Reply; I have no idea you have stuff like that sitting everywhere! So now, I remember what it is.....now, if I can just remember where it is and what it is when we return next month from our mountain house....
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:52 PM   #31
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For those who haven't bought it and stored it somewhere (like Danny) it's available in chrome for $8.99 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/K1140B-Shower...78&sr=8-1&th=1 also available in brushed nickel for a few cents cheaper.
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Old 09-09-2019, 05:55 AM   #32
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check valves are a good idea but one thing doesn't make since, why would the cold water have more pressure than the hot, its a fluid system fed by the same pump or pressure source, all pressure in the system is equal so it is impossible for the cold to have more pressure, unless you have a restrictor or pressure reducer in the hot line some whare

but yet, the dribble in mine goes right cold also making me wonder if there is something else going on in the facet that allows more cold flow.

Damn now you got my curiosity peaked and I am going to go have to open up the storage wall in the 5th and see how they have it set up....

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Old 09-09-2019, 06:07 AM   #33
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Prior to the "one valve winterization system" there wasn't a "cold water shock" in the shower. My guess is that the "one way valve" at the water heater outlet has some effect on the cold/hot pressure difference as does the blender valve in the faucet. Back when we had the 3 valve winterization system, I never had a "cold surge"... With the new single valve/one way outlet, I've always understood that is what causes the problem. Several members have removed the one way valve, installed two more 1/4 turn valves and say it eliminates the cold surge.... I did it on the Springdale, but only got to take 2 showers after the mod before the tree fell on it and we sold it, so I wasn't able to verify if it solved the problem. Javi, who hasn't been online recently did the mod and posted that it solved his cold surge issues.
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Prior to the "one valve winterization system" there wasn't a "cold water shock" in the shower. My guess is that the "one way valve" at the water heater outlet...

Hey, you're the guy to ask. Is there also a one-way valve at the water heater inlet? I'm asking because I am wondering whether my problem with silt clogging up my toilet inlet is actually water heater sediment finding its way out the cold line due to bouncing while on the road. That would certainly fit all the symptoms I'm seeing.
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Old 09-09-2019, 06:33 AM   #35
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I've never seen a one way valve installed in the cold water inlet. The only "one way valve" is the one installed at the top "hot water outlet" on the water heater.

As for your "silt problem" I don't think it's hot water related. There's no mixing valve that would combine the hot water and the cold water that flows to the toilet. I can't explain why you're having problems with clogging and it doesn't make any "rational sense" that it would keep occurring....

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Old 09-09-2019, 06:36 AM   #36
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I’m with John, never seen a check valve on the inlet side. Between he and I that’s a lot of RV’s.
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Old 09-09-2019, 08:12 AM   #37
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So as not to hijack this thread, I'm going to post my reply on the thread I already have open for my problem.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:54 AM   #38
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https://www.amazon.com/K1140B-Shower...78&sr=8-1&th=1
So this mod will work on the outside shower too if there is space to get it in there
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Old 09-09-2019, 02:46 PM   #39
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I’ve also installed this little KES valve too. It works great. No trickle and no cold blast.
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Old 09-09-2019, 04:54 PM   #40
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I installed the positive shut off but also installed the check valve on the hot side which required pulling the faucet out. The results are fantastic.
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