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Old 10-13-2019, 08:00 PM   #61
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^^^This. Don't use silicone.
Or Aerospace 303. 7 on the Richter scale after I applied it several years ago. Had to wash down the wear bar and applied baby powder. Both slides move as if they're on rails now. I use a rubber conditioner on the side/top seals.
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Old 01-09-2020, 02:42 PM   #62
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Anyone find out more information on a roller install fix?
I talked to the Norco rep lady, and she said there was a fix (like the Lippert Roller fix), but I had to go through Keystone.
My dealer is dragging their feet (surprise surprise, its a Camping WOrld).
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:40 PM   #63
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Anyone find out more information on a roller install fix?
I talked to the Norco rep lady, and she said there was a fix (like the Lippert Roller fix), but I had to go through Keystone.
My dealer is dragging their feet (surprise surprise, its a Camping WOrld).

I'm not sure why Camping World would be dragging their feet or why it would go through Keystone? If it is warranty Keystone is not going to install rollers if they aren't on there - they will repair/replace something if it's broken or failed. The roller add would be on your and my CW told me they would be glad to do it. Of course, dealer responses are dealer specific...good ones work with you, others not so much.

When I talked to Norco a few weeks back their slide person told me to measure the height of the wearbar, call her and she would give me the part number, order them and install them. Simple and straight forward. I'm not at that point yet with the mods I made but not sure how your issue is either a Keystone or CW issue?
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Old 01-09-2020, 04:19 PM   #64
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Camping World has been nothing but problems since day one, but that's a different issue.

The rep at Norco told me I had to go through Keystone to find repairs, and my Camping World dealer was my key to keystone service. But they are DRAGGING THEIR FEET. Its been two months.

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phone number? It sounds like I need to be talking to that same person you mentioned. I am trying to find the fix, and do the repairs myself.

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Old 01-09-2020, 05:05 PM   #65
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Camping World has been nothing but problems since day one, but that's a different issue.

The rep at Norco told me I had to go through Keystone to find repairs, and my Camping World dealer was my key to keystone service. But they are DRAGGING THEIR FEET. Its been two months.

Can you share that NORCO
phone number? It sounds like I need to be talking to that same person you mentioned. I am trying to find the fix, and do the repairs myself.

Thanks
I called and they tried to just give me generic "answers" and I escalated. I talked to a lady who was their "expert" on the slides while she was driving. Don't remember if I posted this in another thread but she said that Norco doesn't recommend using Darco on their cable slides but the manufacturers choose their own designs....Keystone chooses the Darco with the wear bar. I have shared that with Keystone upper management along with my disappointment with their choice vs the recommendations from Norco which is rollers.

I have her name and number.....somewhere. I'm in the RV and not used to "living" in a tiny box so I have stuff strewn all over. My kitchen table is my office and covered with laptop, printer, folders etc. Somewhere in all the notes and "stuff" piled behind my laptop and printer I'm sure I have those notes. I'll see if I can find them and PM you.
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That would be great.

Thank you!!
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Old 01-09-2020, 06:32 PM   #67
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That would be great.

Thank you!!
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I'm not sure if this is helpful to you, or if it's repeated information. (we're at Quartzsite for the rv show and I'm working on my cellphone with a slooooow connection) Nonetheless, this youtube of a guy adding rollers to a slide that sounds like yours may be useful to you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...v=HgGEWmeojN0#

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Old 01-11-2020, 12:54 PM   #68
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Glad I found this thread. After lubing every cable, pulley, chain and sprocket on my slides they now work pretty well. I screwed up and sprayed lube on the slide rail and had the same jerking problem coming in and out. I used a LIBERAL amount of Totally Awesome and cleaned the outside of the rails as good as I could and the jerking was reduced by about 75%. It still hops a little but it is manageable now. I guess that i will keep putting the Totally Awesome to it until they run smoothly...
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Old 01-12-2020, 07:29 AM   #69
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I fought same problem for months. Called Bal K & L manufacture tec rep. Issue was twofold. First, used a slide lube other than Slideout Rubber Seal Treatment by Protectal, Inc. made in USA (follow directions on can). Had to wash sides and rubbers thoroughly, but jumping still existed. Do not remove rubber seal flap at bottom - does not allow access to anything. Run slide fully out. Thoroughly wash black plastic bottom of slide. Purchase Zap or newly available WD40 Specialist Dirt and Dust Resistant Dry Lube PTFE spray (found mine at Home Depot). Soak bottom black plastic of slide. Run in and out a few times. Resoak. Run in and out. Should improve. Mine was so bad I had to get more aggressive. Ran slide 90% out, balanced on two large blocks and jacked up. Moved entire slide room up about 4". Reached in and cleaned hard rubber "solid rubber roll edge" (not a roller) thoroughly soaked with lube. Problem solved. Ours was so bad one of the cables jumped the roller. Be sure to check all cables and rollers. You will have to take the side plates off to do this (from the interior). Ours works perfectly now. Good luck. It is annoying when these things happen. We were on an extended trip at the time.

Edit: Positive note: Now have a real good working knowledge of our slide.
So did you coat the entire bottom of the slide with the WD40 Dry Lube? My slides appear to be just 3/4" plywood covered with some kind of carbon fiber material. Did you spray the dry lube on the solid rubber roll edge?
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:59 AM   #70
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I'm not sure if this is helpful to you, or if it's repeated information. (we're at Quartzsite for the rv show and I'm working on my cellphone with a slooooow connection) Nonetheless, this youtube of a guy adding rollers to a slide that sounds like yours may be useful to you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...v=HgGEWmeojN0#

Mike

Yes Mike.
That's the video I have seen. That particular slide is a Lippert, and they have that fix. Norco "supposedly" has that fix too, but I can't get the part numbers.
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I called and they tried to just give me generic "answers" and I escalated. I talked to a lady who was their "expert" on the slides while she was driving. Don't remember if I posted this in another thread but she said that Norco doesn't recommend using Darco on their cable slides but the manufacturers choose their own designs....Keystone chooses the Darco with the wear bar. I have shared that with Keystone upper management along with my disappointment with their choice vs the recommendations from Norco which is rollers.

I have her name and number.....somewhere. I'm in the RV and not used to "living" in a tiny box so I have stuff strewn all over. My kitchen table is my office and covered with laptop, printer, folders etc. Somewhere in all the notes and "stuff" piled behind my laptop and printer I'm sure I have those notes. I'll see if I can find them and PM you.

I'm supposed to take my camper back to my dealer next week. They haven't been able to find any information.

Did you have a chance to find that phone number? I'd like to be able to have all this figured out before I go there, since its a normal occurance for me to be the one to tell them how to fix things.
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So did you coat the entire bottom of the slide with the WD40 Dry Lube? My slides appear to be just 3/4" plywood covered with some kind of carbon fiber material. Did you spray the dry lube on the solid rubber roll edge?

make sure you are using the wd40 with the ptfe. Its not just dry lube.
The Zep or WD40 both are with the PTFE
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Old 01-14-2020, 03:38 PM   #73
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I'm supposed to take my camper back to my dealer next week. They haven't been able to find any information.

Did you have a chance to find that phone number? I'd like to be able to have all this figured out before I go there, since its a normal occurance for me to be the one to tell them how to fix things.

I will send you a PM.
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Yes Mike.
That's the video I have seen. That particular slide is a Lippert, and they have that fix. Norco "supposedly" has that fix too, but I can't get the part numbers.
I would have guessed the rollers were generic, that is, like 3/4 or 1 inch tall (diameter). I hope you find your solution. We have 3 slides, 2 Schwintek and 1 heavy duty electric drive rack and pinion. Every time we run them in or out I have my fingers crossed. Some days I miss the simplicity of 1 slide or no slides.

Good luck.
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make sure you are using the wd40 with the ptfe. Its not just dry lube.
The Zep or WD40 both are with the PTFE
Yep, that's what I got. I degreased the slide bar as good as I could with Totally Awesome and sprayed the WD40 PTFE on the bottom of the slide and let it dry. Ran the slide in and out and absolutely no hopping. Runs as smooth as new. I thought about the roller fix but it is working great now so I will just monitor it...
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How did you reach the slide/wear bar to clean it?
Did you have to raise the slide to reach under?

Where is that bar located? Is it right at the outer edge of the camper floor, or is it in further?

Thanks.
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How did you reach the slide/wear bar to clean it?
Did you have to raise the slide to reach under?

Where is that bar located? Is it right at the outer edge of the camper floor, or is it in further?

Thanks.

The wear bar is directly under the slide box behind the outer seal. Open the slide, pull down the seal and you will see a polymer "bar" running the length of the slide a few inches inside the seal. You can pull the slide in a few inches from the fully extended position and see the wear bar inside on mine.

For cleaning you could raise the slide I suppose but that can be a lot of work and possibly lead to issues with the cable system.
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:38 PM   #78
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My experiences: Silicone BAD. 3-in-1 RV slide lubricant VERY BAD. The rubber weather seal quite possibly grips and jumps rather than slides. (Ended up ripping the weather stripping while troubleshooting. That's a repair I'm not looking forward to.

The WD 40 Pro PTFE dry lube appears to have resolved the lubrication issues. Bought it at Walmart.
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Old 10-22-2020, 05:12 PM   #80
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I had a similar problem with my Accuslide kitchen slide. Based on ideas from this thread and others I jacked up the extended slideout a good 4" or so, so that I could access the wear bar--both from outside and inside
I used WD-40 Specialist Dry Lube with PTFE and liberally sprayed both sides of the wear bar. Waited an hour or two for it to dry, let down the jacks, and voila! It works again. For now. BAL fixed this design flaw on their later models by applying roller bars to help the slideouts to, well, slide better. I've got them on back order and will install as soon as I can get my hands on them.



Many thanks to Sourdough and others who have posted about this issue!--BD
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