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Old 02-25-2018, 08:04 PM   #1
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Where to Hardwire Surge Protector

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I have a new 2018 Cougar 25RES 5w and I have not found yet where I can access the main 50AMP wires that come into the trailer at the back? I would like to install a Progressive Industries HW50C hardwire version. I know I need some room and also to connect into main wires coming into the trailer before they go to anything else for proper protection.

Anyone know where I might look. Otherwise I will just get the portable and put a lock on it.

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Old 02-25-2018, 08:08 PM   #2
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Pull the breaker panel. The EMS has to go anywhere BEFORE the main breakers. There may be room behind it.
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:12 PM   #3
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The input power goes directly to the power center. There is a ROMEX 10W3 line from that inlet shore power connector to the back side of the power center main circuit breaker. There are no (at least not supposed to be) any branch lines before the main circuit breaker. So, you can disconnect shore power, remove the 4 screws that hold the power center in place, pull it out (there is sufficient wiring to allow you to pull it out of the mount location) and install the EMS there.
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:20 PM   #4
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Is the "Power Center" the fuse box under the oven? (on mine) Some how I pull that out and then there should be room to mount the surge protector onto a wall or frame?

Just got the trailer so excuse the unfamiliarity with it.
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:33 PM   #5
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Yes power center is the fuse/breaker box. Fuses on one side and breakers on the other. Should be Roberts (square) head #2 screws.
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:56 PM   #6
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Hi,

I have a new 2018 Cougar 25RES 5w and I have not found yet where I can access the main 50AMP wires that come into the trailer at the back? I would like to install a Progressive Industries HW50C hardwire version. I know I need some room and also to connect into main wires coming into the trailer before they go to anything else for proper protection.

Anyone know where I might look. Otherwise I will just get the portable and put a lock on it.

Thanks
WanderOne...I went through everything you are right now. I started a thread a month ago. Check it out, as my panel is also under the oven. Tremendous amount of info in that thread should help you:

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums...urge+protector

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Old 02-26-2018, 08:10 AM   #7
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WanderOne...I went through everything you are right now. I started a thread a month ago. Check it out, as my panel is also under the oven. Tremendous amount of info in that thread should help you:

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums...urge+protector

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There was something in the post that you sent about rubber gourmets under unit due to the Humm. Do you notice that?

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Old 02-26-2018, 09:37 AM   #8
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Before you go in there unplug the shore power and you should also disconnect the battery.
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Old 02-26-2018, 10:17 AM   #9
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Before you go in there unplug the shore power and you should also disconnect the battery.
Was planning on both but thanks for the confirm.
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:36 PM   #10
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There was something in the post that you sent about rubber gourmets under unit due to the Humm. Do you notice that?

Tom
I'm about halfway through the install as I type. Don't like being twisted up like a pretzel...needed a break! Will apprise of any hum shortly...hopefully not.

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Old 02-27-2018, 08:34 AM   #11
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I'm about halfway through the install as I type. Don't like being twisted up like a pretzel...needed a break! Will apprise of any hum shortly...hopefully not.

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Well how did it go? Did you go the the chiropractor after?
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Old 02-27-2018, 05:50 PM   #12
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Well how did it go? Did you go the the chiropractor after?
All done with install of PI EMS 50 amp hardwire w/ remote. Wish I could say easy peazy. Wasn't hard, wiring was straight forward if one knows the basics of electrical wiring. It was just difficult to access and install, and working w/6awg wire sucks. Everything seems to get a little more difficult as the years pass. But its done, I have the satisfaction doing it myself, and knowing it's done right!!!

Working perfectly. Very minimal hum, hardly noticeable. Put mounting screws through 1/4" rubber pads isolating unit from the lauan 'sounding board'. Inside the base cabinet under sink I can't hear any hum at all!!

Took off the inside molding on left side of rear door to outside 4" from base cabinet. Cut a couple shallow 3/16" dados on backside of molding. Ran the remote wire (same as telephone wire from wall to phone...remember them?) through the dados and between the door jam and wall. Replaced molding. Mounted the remote up by the TT control panel.

Pics pending.

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P.S. - Heating pad, lazy boy, Gentleman Jack, and I are having a Come to Jesus meeting right now.
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Old 02-27-2018, 06:52 PM   #13
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Sounds like ya done good!
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Sounds like ya done good!
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:14 AM   #15
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Thanks to the report.
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Sorry for the duplicative posts on the same EMS install, but my project status got bifurcated. The pictures of the installation can be seen on this thread, post #105: http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums...d=1#post275343
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Old 11-27-2019, 04:56 PM   #17
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Good evening WanderOne,
We have the Cougar 25Res, too. Well, we just signed the paperwork, but it is still up at the dealer. How did your install of the EMS Progressive HW50C go? Dealer quoting us 4 hours of labor because he has to pull out the oven. I am getting up the gumption to DIY!
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We have the Cougar 25Res, too. Well, we just signed the paperwork, but it is still up at the dealer. How did your install of the EMS Progressive HW50C go? Dealer quoting us 4 hours of labor because he has to pull out the oven. I am getting up the gumption to DIY!
Buy the portable & save the gumption.
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Does your trailer have the Furrion seperate cook top and oven? If so he is still a bit out of line IMO. I can see 2 hrs total time.

If you do DIY, make sure you test for LP leaks at the stove and oven.
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Old 11-28-2019, 05:42 AM   #20
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I have a question on a Progressive EMS-HW 50c. I think in read in a post that was a few years old that you will have problems with the Ems not letting power thru if you run generators is this true. Thanks for any help. Happy Thanksgiving to all. DDG
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