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05-16-2018, 05:49 PM
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Changing Tires
I'm sure this is an old question, and mostly generic. I am the owner of a Cougar 327 RES. Just recently swapped tires out and did the work myself. 5ver is to hard to get in and out of driveway just to pull down to the tire store. Anyway back to my question. What are you guys using as a contact point on the trailer for raising with jack. I read and seen several answers from different informational sites. Need more input.
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2006 Duramax Silverado 2500HD
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05-16-2018, 05:57 PM
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If you have auto level, you can use “manual mode” and lift the trailer high enough to change the tires. Otherwise you can use the frame, or if you use the axle, make sure the contact point is the plate where the springs meet the axles.
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05-16-2018, 06:55 PM
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The information you seek is in the owner's manual. If you don't have one here is a link to the Keystone generic manuals.
https://www.keystonerv.com/owners/owners-manuals/
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05-16-2018, 07:04 PM
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Interesting that Keystone says NOT to use “stab jacks”, I wonder if that just means the scissors style?
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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05-17-2018, 01:10 AM
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I'm pulling from Chuckster's answer now: "Contact point is the plate where the springs meet the axles" has ben the most common answer for a number of threads on most forums. The reason manufacturers don't want an owner to jack on the axle itself is because about 20% of them would try it in the middle....
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05-17-2018, 06:15 AM
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The Keystone owners manual is so generic. A few good points are in it...
But who has a jack on the road that would safely lift a fifth wheel at the frame near the shackle mount?
I carry a floor jack and will jack at axle to spring contact point plate.
Lippert and Dexter don’t want you to jack at the axle
I’d also use
My six point hydraulic system to lift a wheel off and change ... easiest.
But if your off he side of the road the shoulder is most likely not very safe to jack due to stability concerns.
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05-17-2018, 08:50 PM
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I went thru this a few months ago. It's so frustrating, it seems like all the documentation is written by lawyers who just want to make sure you jack the rig using any component *other* than the one made by whoever signs their checks. I decided to split the difference; I used my 6 point hydraulic leveling system to raise the trailer until "most" of the weight was on the leveling jacks but the tires still touched the ground, then used a floor jack on the axle (at the spring contact point plate) to the get the desired wheel off the ground. This way the floor jack is just compressing the spring, but not supporting the full weight of the trailer. Seemed like a reasonable compromise to me, and if necessary, I could replicate this technique with a bottle jack in a roadside situation in the event of a flat tire.
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05-18-2018, 04:46 AM
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Here's what I do... I put my 12X12X2's down under my Lippert leveling jacks just as I would in a campsite and hit auto level... Once the trailer is level, I use the remote to extend the jacks as needed to raise the tire enough to clear.
Change the tire and again using the remote raise all jacks...
Found out the hard way, that you have to use the remote to home all the jacks is you used it to raise the trailer...
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05-18-2018, 05:35 AM
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On the 4 point leveling system I use a jack and a piece of heavy duty 1-1/2"X 8" long square tubing on the 1-1/2" X 1-1/2" notch on the back of the leveling jack bracket. The frame is reinforced where the bracket is attached to the frame. I also hitch the fifth Wheel to the TV to get a three vs four point contact so you are not trying to jack a square box which would require more force to lift one side.
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