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Old 02-16-2013, 11:08 AM   #1
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Can't always believe salespeople.

Was looking at a used Laredo 266RL in Salt Lake City. We own one and are quite happy with it. The online saleperson had written it could easily be pulled with a new 1500 pickup. I wouldn't try it. Our previous rig was a Jayco Quest, dry weight 5,500 lbs and we barely pulled it with a 1500 Chevy Silverado. We pull the 266RL with a 2500 Diesel and it does well, but a smaller pickup -- no way.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:44 AM   #2
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BUT! Sales people don't lie!!!!! How dare you????

Now, how am I ever going to sell this bridge?????
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:00 PM   #3
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BUT! Sales people don't lie!!!!! How dare you????

Now, how am I ever going to sell this bridge?????
Ask any politician, they sold one to nowhere.


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Old 02-16-2013, 12:28 PM   #4
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It's no lie. A 1500 with a 2-speed transfer case can easily pull that trailer while in 4Lo. All the way up to about 10 MPH.
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:57 PM   #5
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Wow.. If yours is similar to the current 266RL, that's 11500lb GVWR and 1900lb hitch. Based on what I've seen, that exceeds GCWR, RAWR and payload for every 1/2 ton out there by a fairly substantial amount. I would imagine those numbers might be pushing it even for some 3/4 ton trucks in the lower end of that range.

That's a perfect example why you should *always* use critical thinking when talking with salesmen. Their job is to sell you something, not necessarily keep you safe. Although, I would imagine some are more responsible than others with keeping you safe ... and some are just plain ignorant.

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Old 02-16-2013, 03:37 PM   #6
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Right bouncey eyes

Our salesperson was a good one. A small owner shop and he told us to get a new truck before we could haul the trailer.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:18 PM   #7
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We will never know the motive of that salesman. Being a RV salesman you would think he would know what would be a correct tow vehicle. Maybe he was just attempting to get anyone to the lot and sell them smaller trailers or bigger tow vehicles. Everyone should know what their tow vehicles GVWRs etc..Because they are not a passenger car, the Feds make the companies test,rate and publish all that stuff and put it on the white stickers (Federal Standard Sticker) and in the manual.
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:57 AM   #8
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Our salesperson was a good one. A small owner shop and he told us to get a new truck before we could haul the trailer.
My selling dealer, said that they would deliver my TT to my house free of charge, but that their insurance would not allow them to allow me to hook my truck to the trailer unless it was equipped with a proper WDH. The TT was a Cougar 28RBS and the truck was a Ram 3500, but in the end, I bought the hitch and delivered my own trailer. So far, the experience I have had with my TT and selling dealer, has been a positive one. Some people just have no business serving the public.


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Old 02-17-2013, 04:39 AM   #9
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Like every facit of life there are good and bad salemen. I have been employed by an automotive dealership for 30 years. I run the parts side of things with the outside wholesale customers and body shops. During those 30 years I have lost track of the number of salemen that have come and gone form the front side of the businsess. I have witnessed and shook my head on numerous occassions listening to the BS that some of our previous sales types have laid on perspective customers. Those ones generally do not last too long but usually leave a trail of destruction for management to clean up once they have moved on or are weeded out. On the other hand we have salesmen who are not afraid to walk down the street and meet up with a customer they have previously done business with and not have to run the other way. I remember as a young wet behind the ears kid starting out at our store and the Dealer Principle telling me to never put myself in a position that I would have to run the other way when meeting a previous customer. This is something I have tried to adhere to and perhaps why I have been somewhat successful at what I do.
This past fall at the Toronto RV show I ran into a super sales type who was adament my Grand Cherokee could tow a 28 foot TT. I believe the dry weight was 6800 pounds on the trailer and the max tow weight on the Jeep is 7200 pounds. It got to the point where I started playing with the guy for my amusement. My wife at that point got that look in here eyes and walked away. He made the comment to me that he had been in the business longer than I was old and he knew I could safely tow that unit. At that point I politely told him he should have quit 50 years ago because he didn't know anything. I have to give the guy credit though... he was 50 pounds lighter than me, 6 inches shorter, 20 years older, and I thought he was going to hit me. Incidently, this guy works for the same dealer that a number of years back talked us into buying our first Coleman but convinced us to purchase it elsewhere because of their sales tactics.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:19 AM   #10
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An informed buyer is the bad salesman's worst nightmare. Unfortunately more his supervisors fault.....lack of quality training.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:06 PM   #11
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They call it a superlite

Just saw the 2013 at the RV show in SLC. They call it a superlite however it is only 40 lbs lighter than my 2011. Right on the door it said pull with a half ton.
Wow!
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I was inpressed with our salesman, we told him what we were wanting and he asked 2 Qs before saying anything else. What truck do you have to pull a RV with and can you park a RV and store it at your house. Than we went in the lot.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:50 AM   #13
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Yes, I had that happen once too, the first thing the salesman did is look up the towing limits of my truck, then we went to the lot. All too rare though. Most of the time it's 'it'll pull it.'
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:32 PM   #14
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I had a great experience on my last purchase, but my sales person was a service writer that was helping sales out at an RV show. She knew the service, technical and sales sides equally well. Although I was pretty sure my 2012 Ram 2500, with 6.7L Cummins would pull a 10,000 pound Keystone 5er. :-)
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:44 PM   #15
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Having window shopped at almost every rv dealer in the Salt Lake area, I can just imagine which salesman said that!
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:16 AM   #16
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Was looking at a used Laredo 266RL in Salt Lake City. We own one and are quite happy with it. The online saleperson had written it could easily be pulled with a new 1500 pickup. I wouldn't try it. Our previous rig was a Jayco Quest, dry weight 5,500 lbs and we barely pulled it with a 1500 Chevy Silverado. We pull the 266RL with a 2500 Diesel and it does well, but a smaller pickup -- no way.
Yeah, when we went to the rv show in Sept i had alot of them telling me the same thing. One key phrase they all seem to leave out it "is when properly equiped".... I do have to stick up for some 1500's though. I have a 1500 and its limit is 10k but its also properly equiped(6.0 v8, 410 gears trans cooler and its mainly flat land) But our trailer now is close to that number when loaded and its not the most enjoyable drive...And to go above that number??? NOPE...Its one reason this yr Im moving to a more capable truck.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:56 AM   #17
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If you listened to these so-called (Snake Oil) Salesmen you could believe that 1/2t would be able to pull a 42 ft Toy Hauler (with a couple of Max quads) 5er which is also pulling a 32 ft Bayliner..............
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:46 AM   #18
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If you listened to these so-called (Snake Oil) Salesmen you could believe that 1/2t would be able to pull a 42 ft Toy Hauler (with a couple of Max quads) 5er which is also pulling a 32 ft Bayliner..............
Well, if you load it up with that stuff then it takes "ALL" your poin weight off so you can haul more!!! duh
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:55 PM   #19
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If you listened to these so-called (Snake Oil) Salesmen you could believe that 1/2t would be able to pull a 42 ft Toy Hauler (with a couple of Max quads) 5er which is also pulling a 32 ft Bayliner..............
Don't need a 1/2 ton for this set up. With the tongue weight so low i pulled a similar rig with my 1972 AMC Gremlin. I will admit i had the 6 cyl though.
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Ya, but I'm sure that Gremlin had the HD rear suspension option!!
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