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Old 10-03-2018, 09:08 PM   #11
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You guys forgot to mention comparing the dry listed weights of a a RV is not how to see if XX can tow it. Use the GVWR of the trailer and tongue wt for the GVWR not dry.

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Old 10-04-2018, 06:09 AM   #12
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As others have already mentioned, there are 2 significant deficits when towing with a midsize SUV.

First is payload. JGCs average around 1300 lbs of payload from the factory. More optioned trims will be less. When loaded up and "ready to camp", the tongue weight on the forementioned trailer can be as high as 975# (6500x15%). Throw in a 100 lb WDH and nearly 1,100 lbs of payload has already been accounted for. Not much reserve payload left over.

The second limiting factor is the inherent short wheelbase of "any" midsize SUV. The "tail wagging the dog" or however one says it, is the downfall of towing any large trailer. Short wheelbase vehicles will always be at a disadvantage when it comes to control of the trailer behind them. Passing semi's, crosswinds, and the descents on hill crests will become tiring on long commutes. Control should come natural without frequent steering corrections. This won't be the case with a SUV wheelbase at 114 inches pulling a 29 ft high profile travel trailer.

Last summer, I camped next to a man (and his family) with the same 35 foot trailer I had. His TV was a late model Dodge Durango. A slightly larger vehicle than the JGC with a wb of 119". We struck up a conversation. This was his first trip out with his trailer after buying it new 1 month earlier. He told me that he was very disappointed in the Durango's control of the coach. He was using a 2 point sway control WDH. He stated he had a 200 mile ride home and wasn't looking forward to it. Then he asked me how my Ram 2500 Mega cab towed this trailer. Let's just say, by the end of our discussion, he was a "future" RAM owner.

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Old 10-04-2018, 06:22 AM   #13
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Speaking from experience my passport is 28feet 11inches and is about the same dry weight as yours. I tow with my F-150 with little trouble. We also own a Nissan Armada that is built on the Titan truck frame with a 5.6L V8 with factory rear airbags that level the unit out when the rear sags, we tow with an equalizer 4pt distribution hitch and I can tell you that the few times we have used the Armada it will pull it and has the cargo capacity but by no means would I use it as my primary tow vehicle and it has a towing capacity of over 9000lbs. I only use it if my F-150 is in the shop and we need to move the trailer. My advice as many others have stated is that the JGC is great vehicle you are pushing beyond its intended use.
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Old 10-04-2018, 06:52 AM   #14
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This is one of those...
“Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.”
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Old 10-05-2018, 05:49 AM   #15
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I tow with a body-on-frame SUV with no issues, but my RV is a little smaller (25'). I get why someone would want to use an SUV. If that's the case, you might want to look at the Expedition. It is rated to tow over 9000# and unlike the unibody Cherokee, is a body-on-frame design. The wheelbase is almost exactly the same as the F-150 with a 6.5' bed. The V6 generates 470 ft-lb of torque with a 10-speed transmission. The "max" Expedition has a longer wheelbase than the F-150 6.5' bed. The tow package includes an integrated brake controller and the trailer backup assist.
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Old 10-05-2018, 01:05 PM   #16
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This is a decision you will quickly regret if you get in some wind. You will also feel the weight in braking and any maneuver requiring quick direction changes. The bigger machine will win.
Better to have the righttool for the job. And if you are looking at a 19 grand cherokee, it doesnt appear $ is driving the decision. Get a tow vehicle. Save the grand cherokee for the jet skiis.
Ive had 3 grand cherokees, 1 Ford ranger, 1 F150, several 3/4 chevys and dodges, a newer F250 and many trailers of different sizes. The jeep would be my last choice if doing any towing.
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Old 10-05-2018, 01:37 PM   #17
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If you have to have an SUV body, Yukon/Suburban/Expedition would be better options.
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Old 10-05-2018, 03:13 PM   #18
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I'll chime in on this. First to clarify a misconception, it's the DRIVETRAIN that matters not necessarily the engine size. JGCs with the factory tow package are rated the same with the exception of 2WD vs 4WD. WDHs are required over 3500 lbs.

I have a 2014 3.0L and I tow a Passport Elite 27RB. I agree it's not the best combination but I'm willing to compromise for the offroadability. Yeah, sometimes it's a case of the tail wagging the dog but not often and not to the white knuckle level.

Myself, the wife, and the dog are the only cargo in the Jeep, the rest is in the trailer - we don't pack a lot of stuff, we're not fulltimers. It would be much different if we were.

Is it the best? NO. is it capable? Yes

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Old 10-05-2018, 03:37 PM   #19
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Don't do it. Unless it's a set of jet skis or something like it. I saw a salesman at Camping World in Birmingham Alabama sell a guy a trailer that just looking at it you could tell it was way too heavy & an accident waiting to happen. I asked him what the hell you doing? They only care about the sale. I bought a 35' 5th wheel Montana. But I pull it with a 3500 Dodge 4x4. This guy had a Chevy Tahoe & the rear end looked liked a low rider. It's just too dangerous when driving down the highway. I'm a demo contractor & I know a little bit about weights. I have bobcats & John Deere 710 backhoes driving around So.Cal. everyday. The last thing you want to do get in a accident or worse killing somebody.
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:16 AM   #20
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I like the last post, SOCOINC1984. Know what you're talking about, be blunt, be concise, be accurate.

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