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Old 06-16-2015, 10:06 AM   #1
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Unvented Cooktop Hood

We've had our 2014 Avalanche 295RL 5vr for about 3 months. The trailer is working out great for us but we discovered one thing.

When my DW is cooking, she turns on the stove hood fan to vent out the cooking heat and smells, but we found that it's not vented to the outside but instead is vented to the inside of the trailer. It would seem to me that this is not correct and may have been missed during the construction of the trailer.

Does anyone else have this issue with this model of 5vr?
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:08 AM   #2
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I can't speak to your model, but mine is unvented and I've read other threads about this same issue.
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:16 AM   #3
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It was intentional, Mfg cost shaving
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:17 AM   #4
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Your suspicion that something was "forgotten" during assembly of your trailer is un-founded. There are two methods used by Keystone to install range hoods. One is "vented outside" and the other is "recirculating the range products". I wasn't aware that the Avalanche used the "non-vented" hood, but unfortunately, no, the assembly line didn't "forget" to cut the hole for yours to vent outside.

There are a couple of threads posted by members who "took the bull by the horns" and cut their own hole to vent their range exhaust. Use the search feature, if you can't find them, let us know and we can help you locate the threads.
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Old 06-16-2015, 01:58 PM   #5
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Mine is also vented inside, that's why we cook outside whenever possible.
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Old 06-16-2015, 02:47 PM   #6
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I might also add here that it is somewhat common to find an unvented range hood in middle/lower cost housing and apartments. I'm not sure that the darned thing even serves a purpose other than to supply an infinitesimally small amount of light by which to cook.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:11 PM   #7
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Is the vent flap unlocked outside? If you have one? Latches unlocked?
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:35 PM   #8
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I can't speak to your model, but mine is unvented and I've read other threads about this same issue.

And this type of range hood isn't a Keystone exclusive.
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Old 06-17-2015, 02:44 AM   #9
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I speculate that hoods are not vented to the outside by Keystone because of the risk of moisture being introduced into the wall cavity because of a poorly sealed duct. RV brands that utilize exterior walls that are not prone to moisture damage seem to have exterior vented stove hoods.

The moisture damage risk is in part why I do NOT plan on making the mod to an exterior vent.
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Old 06-17-2015, 03:24 AM   #10
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Is the vent flap unlocked outside? If you have one? Latches unlocked?
I found out the hard way with the vent flapper being lock, I need to remember to unlock when where out camping.
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Old 06-17-2015, 07:18 AM   #11
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Ours is unvented as well as I believe many are. I did not give it a second thought as my house is not vented plus we do all our cooking outside as the outside kitchen is very vented...
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Old 06-17-2015, 01:44 PM   #12
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It's easy enough to add an exhaust vent to the outside if there is nothing right behind the range hood such as in my Outback. I have even seen threads where someone did some creative sheet metal work and did a work around, but I'm not that handy.
This is not an oversight on Keystone's part. The way this came to be is as follows. Genius #1 at Keystone scoured their vendors and came up with a barn bustin' price on several trainloads of long windows. After the windows were purchased, someone had to figure out what to do with cheap windows, so while Genius #1 was at lunch, Genius #2 sat down at the drawing board and decided that the windows would fit perfectly behind the stove and the kitchen counter. Genius #1 got commendation for finding heap parts and Genius #2 probably got a trip to the Bahamas for figuring out how to use them so that they would not have to be disposed of. BTW, this is a common phenomenon that occurs every time you give an engineer a pencil.
Geez, that kind sounds like how our government operate.
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Old 06-17-2015, 03:08 PM   #13
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It's easy enough to add an exhaust vent to the outside if there is nothing right behind the range hood such as in my Outback. I have even seen threads where someone did some creative sheet metal work and did a work around, but I'm not that handy.
This is not an oversight on Keystone's part. The way this came to be is as follows. Genius #1 at Keystone scoured their vendors and came up with a barn bustin' price on several trainloads of long windows. After the windows were purchased, someone had to figure out what to do with cheap windows, so while Genius #1 was at lunch, Genius #2 sat down at the drawing board and decided that the windows would fit perfectly behind the stove and the kitchen counter. Genius #1 got commendation for finding heap parts and Genius #2 probably got a trip to the Bahamas for figuring out how to use them so that they would not have to be disposed of. BTW, this is a common phenomenon that occurs every time you give an engineer a pencil.
Geez, that kind sounds like how our government operate.
...and how government foists things upon the public with relative acceptance by the public.
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Old 06-17-2015, 03:46 PM   #14
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My Montana came with a stove vent. I lost the flapper somewhere though. I have a visit to the dealer scheduled next week. Maybe they can fix that.
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Old 06-17-2015, 04:04 PM   #15
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My 2014 Cougar High Country also came with the stove fan vent. We don't cook much at all inside but we do heat water in a tea kettle for tea every day and I use it to vent out the heat from the burner; works pretty good.
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:15 PM   #16
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RV brands that utilize exterior walls that are not prone to moisture damage seem to have exterior vented stove hoods.
Our keystone hornet had the vent, however our Laredo is not vented outside. I doubt it has anything to do with brands that utilize walls that are not prone to moisture. It's all about the $$$$$.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:13 PM   #17
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Our keystone hornet had the vent, however our Laredo is not vented outside. I doubt it has anything to do with brands that utilize walls that are not prone to moisture. It's all about the $$$$$.
mowin, was your Hornet aluminum skinned, whereas your Laredo fiberglass?

Moisture behind the fiberglass degrading the backing board and finally resulting in delamination is what I was referring to in my speculation. Moisture behind an aluminum skin would take longer to degrade the substructure and be noticed. Therefore your experiences are consistent with my speculation. Although I will never argue against the reality of cost cutting measures by the manufacturers.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:41 PM   #18
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FWIW...my 2015 303RLS is vented outside
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Old 06-23-2015, 03:03 PM   #19
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mowin, was your Hornet aluminum skinned, whereas your Laredo fiberglass?

Moisture behind the fiberglass degrading the backing board and finally resulting in delamination is what I was referring to in my speculation. Moisture behind an aluminum skin would take longer to degrade the substructure and be noticed. Therefore your experiences are consistent with my speculation. Although I will never argue against the reality of cost cutting measures by the manufacturers.
Yes my hornet was aluminum skined and Laredo is fiberglass. I have seen many fiberglass tt and 5ers with vented hoods.

I do see your point on possible delamination. But if its installed correctly, it shouldn't be a issue.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:21 PM   #20
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It is my understanding that many Keystone products do not have a water resistant backing behind their fiberglass. Whereas other manufacturers claim to have water proof material backing their fiberglass skin. Those manufacturers often advertise vented stove hoods.

BTW: I agree proper leak free installation is key.
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