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Old 04-14-2019, 06:16 PM   #1
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5th Wheel Hitch, to slide or not to slide

Greetings all! I'm pretty sure this has been a question that has already been brought up, but we are new to the forum and looking for some advice.

Not new to full time RV-ing or towing a variety of items, but we have upgraded everything from years ago, and looking for some advice on specific vehicle and trailer set-up, to pick the correct hitch.

We have a 2012 3500 Ram, standard short-bed (NOT Ram Box or Mega Cab bed). We just purchased a 2014 Montana Big Sky, 3582RL. Age old question... with the way the nose of that particular trailer is made, do we really need a slider hitch? We'll be driving out of state to pick it up, and I've been waiting to purchase a new hitch, waiting to see what trailer we actually found. So this is a one shot deal.

My usual, retentive, do-it-right the first time, life-long motor-head oriented-self, says to just spend the extra money and buy a slider hitch, for the "just in case" moments... but if I don't need to spend twice as much, and the nose will clear the cab, then I'd rather go with a non-slider.

Any help and advice from the community would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks much, Dan & Crystal
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Old 04-14-2019, 06:33 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum. Simple way to tell is just ask the seller to measure the distance from the pin to a corner.

Take that measurement, then using the center of your bed, 1 forward of the rear axle, simply hold the tape and rotate.
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Old 04-14-2019, 06:45 PM   #3
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It depends on where you are likely to be going. Our truck is a 6 1/2 ft bed, and just backing into our spot in Arizona a couple days ago, we were almost 90 degrees from the trailer and if it wasn't for the Pullrite slider, we would have been kissing the cab. If you always intend to get pull through sites and are extremely careful, you can probably get by without a slider, but for us, I have been very glad we sprung for the slider, and an automatic slider at that.
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Old 04-14-2019, 06:48 PM   #4
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I have the pull rite slider and don't regret it at all. You simply don't have to worry about hitting your truck/trailer during turns and tight backing up manuervers. There are enough other things to worry about, so for a few bucks you save yourself the worry. It was worth it the one time I needed to make U-turn and could concentrate on traffic vs. my truck/trailer interface.
Great product IMHO.
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Old 04-14-2019, 06:54 PM   #5
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We have a Chevy 6.5 bed and our Jayco is set up for 88degrees. I do not have a slider, and only get to about 80 degrees but never any further. Our son has a Ram with a slider, has never needed it. Biggest issue is his slider is its much heavier, he uses a come-along type winch to get it out of his truck. We can just lift our non-slider BM companion out, still heavy, but I can remove it by myself.
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:16 AM   #6
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I have a 2011 Ram 2500 crew cab short box and just recently purchased a 2014 Keystone Cougar and had the same question as you. I went with the non slider hitch for the reason that the automatic sliders are so heavy. I have to be able to change between a gooseneck and a fifth wheel hitch and did not want to have to get a hitch out that ways a couple of hundred pounds. If you do not have to remove the hitch on a regular basis then I would say get a slider. With that be said is a slider a complete must have I say no. When I got mine home I tried mine just to see how far I could turn and I would say that I could get to about 80 degrees on level ground. Is there a chance you could hit the cab with a non sliding hitch yes for sure. For me it was just a weight thing.
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Old 04-15-2019, 05:22 AM   #7
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Thanks all for your prompt feedback. I am going with a B&W Companion, 20K. What I was really curious about, on that particular hitch, since you can mount the riser pieces that the head sits on... offset either forward or aft, if the aft position would help give just enough degrees to the rear, to allow a couple extra inches of cab clearance?
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Old 04-15-2019, 05:28 AM   #8
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You might consider the Andersen Ultimate Hitch. That's what I use in my short box and it gives you a 5" set back, which helps in the sharp turns. Depending the the 5er cap design it might not give you 90 degrees but it does help. The hitch comes in 2 installation designs for either attaching to a goose neck ball or standard hitch rails and is light and very easy to remove/install (also rated at 20k). Nose design and hitch height are variables that can also allow for tighter turns.

With my previous 5er and the same truck I could easily turn 90 degrees. This new Monatana won't allow that. I haven't figured out my tolerances yet but I know I've got to be more alert in the tight turn.

As always, just pay attention. Having a spotter while parking is also helpful.
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Old 04-15-2019, 05:33 AM   #9
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Plus the Andersen is less than 40lbs. I love mine.
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:07 AM   #10
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Peace of mind, whatever that is for the original poster of this thread, is the answer. For some people, saving money is of upmost importance, for others light weight is paramount, and for still others convenience is the highest priority. Nobody but the original poster can say what is most important to them.

For my wife and me, we decided the PullRite SuperGlide was the best choice for us. Our 5th wheel has the two indentations in the front cap to allow for tight turning. However, we felt the added convenience (and safety) of an automatic sliding hitch was worth the extra cost. Furthermore, the SuperGlide is a great hitch, even not factoring in its ability to automatically slide when making turns.

Finally, we are human and make mistakes. Just one moment of inattention while turning the truck and trailer in a very sharp turn, either forward or backwards, could cause more than enough damage to the truck and trailer to cost thousands of dollars of damage to repair, not to mention the interruption or canceling of our travels. Paying an extra $400 to $500 now, for the automatic sliding hitch, was worth the peace of mind of knowing we greatly reduced the possibility of causing inadvertent damage to either our truck and trailer when making sharp turns.
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