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Old 04-26-2017, 06:51 AM   #21
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I had a 2016 f250 and bought a 3811 Montana and everybody said don't worry about it will handle it just put in some air bags. After weighing my truck at 8100 pounds that just left me 1900 pounds for my pin weight. the trailer I was going to get was 2750. That was to far over for my comfort. I was able to trade my 250 in for what I paid for it and got a 350 srw. I feel a lot better. I weighed my truck and trailer and my pin weight was 3400 and trailer was under 12000. I'm about 100 pounds over my rating instead of 1500 with the 250.


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Old 04-26-2017, 07:00 AM   #22
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3400 lb pin weight for a trailer less than 12K ?? Seems very high. Do we gave the correct numbers?

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Old 04-26-2017, 07:04 AM   #23
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^ Agree. That puts your pin weight at about 30%. Seems high. Are you heavily loaded in the front basement?
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:25 AM   #24
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I had a 2016 f250 and bought a 3811 Montana and everybody said don't worry about it will handle it just put in some air bags. After weighing my truck at 8100 pounds that just left me 1900 pounds for my pin weight. the trailer I was going to get was 2750. That was to far over for my comfort. I was able to trade my 250 in for what I paid for it and got a 350 srw. I feel a lot better. I weighed my truck and trailer and my pin weight was 3400 and trailer was under 12000. I'm about 100 pounds over my rating instead of 1500 with the 250.


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Well if you 5er is under 12,000, you must have a couple big bags of Helium in it!! Maybe under 12,000# on the axles.

The other thing is you should have gotten a F350 DRW, as all you really did going from an F250 to a F350 SRW is get a door sticker with a slightly higher rear GAWR (tires) and a higher GVWR, there is really no difference in components other than that!!

Here are the specs on you 5er, you really need a F350 DRW to carry/pull a 5er with a 16,705# GVWR!

Specs for 3811MS
Shipping Weight 13,400
Carrying Capacity 3,305
Hitch 2,705
Length 40' 9"
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:36 AM   #25
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The stats on the 2017 3811MS:

empty weight: 13400

cargo capacity: 3305

GVW: 16,705

empty pin weight:2705

Empty pin weight range (20-25%) is 2680 - 3350

GVW pin weight range is 3341 - 4176

I'm not sure where saturn450 got the 12,000 pound "trailer weight" unless he might possibly be referring to the axle weight of 12,000 with 3,400 pounds on the pin ??? That would be a total trailer weight of 15,400 and would put his 3,400 pound pin weight at 22% which would be "right in the middle".....

Just my "speculation of what could be" with no concrete evidence of what saturn450 posted......
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:02 AM   #26
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I'm new to 5th wheeling. What I'm trying to figure out is how you add 3000 pounds to the 9260 empty weight....seems like a lot of stuff. So I guess I need to understand what empty weight really means. I'm going to guess that with all the tanks full..you would add about 1200, Leaving 1800 lbs for gear? Am I even close on this?
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:02 AM   #27
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That was the axle weight on the trailer. Sorry for the confusion. The weight if the truck was before I put the hitch end and I added a generator to the trailer. I ran it over the scales hook up and my rear axle weight was about 3400 pounds heavier. Without the hitch and generator the pin weight of the trailer would be around 2800. Which is what the manufacturer says. My point was the trailer was way too. much for a 250 but you see a lot of 250 pulling that size of trailer. I'm glade I went with a 350.


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That was the axle weight on the trailer. Sorry for the confusion. The weight if the truck was before I put the hitch end and I added a generator to the trailer. I ran it over the scales hook up and my rear axle weight was about 3400 pounds heavier. Without the hitch and generator the pin weight of the trailer would be around 2800. Which is what the manufacturer says. My point was the trailer was way too. much for a 250 but you see a lot of 250 pulling that size of trailer. I'm glade I went with a 350.


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But as pointed out earlier at 16,700# GVWR on that fiver it is also too much for a F350 SRW.

On Edit: It is amazing just how much better the same TV tow a 5er when the only real difference is the sticker on the "B" pillar. That and maybe standard tires, that are optional on a F250.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:41 AM   #29
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Skipped on that one. Found a lighter one that meets the need.

Thanks for the help guys!

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Skipped on that one. Found a lighter one that meets the need.

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Agreed. Good luck!

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