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Old 12-11-2018, 05:10 AM   #1
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:24 AM   #2
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Hi Msdt,
"Ford’s 2015 RV and Trailer Towing Guide carries the blanket warning, “Maximum loaded trailer weight requires weight-distribution hitch” and that it is required for certain Class III and Class IV applications."
This is taken from this article. https://www.hardworkingtrucks.com/to...-still-needed/
I would definitely get one, and I do have one.
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:25 AM   #3
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Your truck is lifted, your trailer is 30+ ft long and you don’t have WD and sway hitch? Your probably using a 12-16” drop shank too, right?

WD and sway needs to be installed.
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:28 AM   #4
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Ok i have a lifted (6 inch) 17 F250. I added roadmaster active suspension to help with the sag of our cougar. Truck still sags BAAAAD. I was about to add 7500 pound airbags to fix the problem. Camping the weekend a couple people said get a weight distribution hitch and not airbags. Trailer weight is around 10k. I don't want to throw away money so help will be appreciated.
The weight distribution hitch is a requirement not an option. You are exceeding the capacity of your truck's receiver without it and it will give you steering control.

Do not go cheap on it either unless you want to buy a second one in the near future. Equalizer 4 point (not 2 point) is a respected choice.
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:29 AM   #5
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Yes I have a Bulletproof drop hitch with there Sway controller.
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:31 AM   #6
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Will it alleviate all the sag?
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:55 AM   #7
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With a properly set up equalizer hitch it will raise the rear end to the middle between loaded and unloaded undistributed height.
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Old 12-11-2018, 06:53 AM   #8
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Check out the Anderson wdh. Easy to easy and setup. I use it on my 38 ft outback that is over 10000 lbs was using it in a 2016 ram 2500. But now on a 2019 f250 it works even better than on the dodge.
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Old 12-11-2018, 09:38 AM   #9
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Ordered the equalizer 4 point 14k wd hitch, just hope i can use my current drop hitch, I should be able to insert the ball mount in the center of the drop hitch rather then the outside correct?
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The WD head will bolt onto any standard or drop shank that has the mounting holes drilled through it. If yours is the “ratchet” style then it won’t work with that shank.
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Old 12-11-2018, 01:18 PM   #11
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How did you order the Equalizer? IE; from Amazon, Etrailer etc.? You will need a drop shank and I doubt your shank has hole spacing that matches the Equalizer head although it might. Mine is a 14k Equalizer drop shank ordered separately after I got a taller 4wd truck. Don't skimp on any of it.

Edit: I see Chuck addressed the hole spacing while I was posting this.
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Old 12-11-2018, 01:24 PM   #12
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Ordered the adapter from bulletproof today. Ordered the hitch from etrailer.
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Old 12-11-2018, 01:51 PM   #13
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Just thinking out loud here, but you may have some issues with your "adapter to the adapted hitch assembly".

I'm guessing on this part, but I'd suspect you've got a 2" drop shank, not a 2.5" or 3" version?

I say that because you are "at the extreme" when it comes to a lift kit, "at the extreme" when it comes to the Bulldog drop shank length" (16") and now, pushing the "ball to C/L of the rear axle" length an additional 3" (approx.) further back from the shank.

Any one of those "probably wouldn't make a difference" however, when you start compiling adapters and mods, you may find that just the "slop" on the receiver/shank is enough to affect trailer handling when magnified by other adaptations.

I wouldn't alter plans at this time, you've already bought the parts, so might as well give it a try. That said, if you find it's not up to the handling improvements you were seeking, you may find that removing the adapter to get the equalizer ball closer to the rear axle centerline is necessary. Then again, it may be OK and meet your expectations. We'll all know once you get the hitch installed. Good Luck.
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John brings up a good point. If you have a 2 1/2" receiver adapted down to 2" you may find you have a problem there that could impact a lot of things given all the mods you've done. I have the adapter and haven't really noticed any problems but my vehicle is stock. I did notice however how much slop there is in the adapter after I bought some mud flaps that attach to the hitch shank. When I would pull into a gas station I would find the bar holding the mud flaps rubbing the back of the bumper on one side and standing off a good way on the other. I thought the bar was loose; it wasn't. I thought it was slipping; it wasn't. With the trailer unattached I just happened to grab the bar and push/pull it. I was amazed at the amount of travel the adapter in the receiver had that let that bar swing left and right.

It hasn't affected my towing to an appreciable level but I know it is there and it has to be affecting it in some way. In your case, with extreme mods, I think I would go straight to a 2 1/2" shank and be done with it.
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the hitch has a 3 inch shank
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Old 12-11-2018, 03:48 PM   #17
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Having a 3" shaft on the receiver eliminates one of the "articulating points" (the 2":2.5: sleeve) but there is still going to be some "swing" 16" below the insertion point on the receiver and some "sway" 3" further back from the rear axle Center Line. Hopefully the E-4 hitch can control the sway. It will also help "a little bit" with the "swing". Whether it will be enough ???? The proof of that remains "in the pudding"....
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Old 12-11-2018, 04:05 PM   #18
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Hi Msdt,
"Ford’s 2015 RV and Trailer Towing Guide carries the blanket warning, “Maximum loaded trailer weight requires weight-distribution hitch” and that it is required for certain Class III and Class IV applications."
This is taken from this article. https://www.hardworkingtrucks.com/to...-still-needed/
I would definitely get one, and I do have one.
Just for clarification, the 2017 diesel F250 has the same tow rating with or without weight distribution.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...de_r6_Nov8.pdf

Having said that, I have a 2017 F250 and I use the equalizer 4 point WDH and sway control and that is also my recommendation. I also agree it should help the sagging rear end but you may also need airbags due to the suspension lift. I think weight distribution is the right place to start.
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Just for clarification, the 2017 diesel F250 has the same tow rating with or without weight distribution.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...de_r6_Nov8.pdf

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I don't think the OP stated whether his F250 is a gas or a diesel truck. Not that it matters regarding the receiver, but it does significantly affect the front axle weight reduction if he is not using a WD hitch and could make the front end of a gas truck dangerously light where a heavier diesel truck may not show that same "lightness".
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