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Old 11-26-2019, 09:50 AM   #21
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Steam tractors will out pull any thing made for coal oil burners. OR electric dippers.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:17 AM   #22
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This electric truck seems a little more well thought out and a lot less pinewood derbyish



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Old 11-26-2019, 11:38 AM   #23
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And here's a little follow up to the original post.....and the suspense continues!!

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/ford-no...of-war-rematch
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Old 11-26-2019, 01:41 PM   #24
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And here's a little follow up to the original post.....and the suspense continues!!

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/ford-no...of-war-rematch
Yeah, that was my first thought as well... the Tesla tires don't spin due to the half ton of battery over each wheel...

(Yes, I'm probably exaggerating, but still.)
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Yeah, that was my first thought as well... the Tesla tires don't spin due to the half ton of battery over each wheel...

(Yes, I'm probably exaggerating, but still.)
Maybe an exaggeration, maybe not, but the tires on the Tesla are significantly bigger and there's 4 of them being driven by independent electric motors. With the torque control driving the motors, there's a helluva lot better traction management than in a 4x2 F150 with a "stock one wheel drive" axle and street tires and we're not sure which "EcoBoost" it might have in it.

That would be the kind of contest I could envision any of the "big 3" doing in jest to "prove their new off road model truck is significantly better than a YUGO.... From what I see between the two trucks in that "pull test" it's matched up closer to a "Hummer/YUGO" test than it is to a "equal or nearly so" truck matchup.....
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:23 PM   #26
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I think it's also worth noting that these tug of war tests don't prove much of didley squat in relation to how well it will serve us as a truck.
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:48 PM   #27
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So...Tesla is trying for the tow truck market? Seems like an awfully small market.
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:02 PM   #28
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So...Tesla is trying for the tow truck market? Seems like an awfully small market.

Especially for an electric powered "truck" . I can see strapping a 15k trailer on the back of that thing; first the rear end hits the ground, but if, IF they ever got that fixed I can only imagine hitting the road, batteries go dead in 5 miles, the trailing vehicle has to arrive then pull out the old Honda gas powered portable generator to "charge you up" then hit it again in the morning......for the next 5 miles. Yep....an AWFULLY small market.
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:13 PM   #29
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Especially for an electric powered "truck" . I can see strapping a 15k trailer on the back of that thing; first the rear end hits the ground, but if, IF they ever got that fixed I can only imagine hitting the road, batteries go dead in 5 miles, the trailing vehicle has to arrive then pull out the old Honda gas powered portable generator to "charge you up" then hit it again in the morning......for the next 5 miles. Yep....an AWFULLY small market.
And an AWFULLY long trip, to ....anywhere!
Maybe someday we will laugh at ourselves over this, but until that day I will continue on fossil fuels.
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:46 PM   #30
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Just think about the plus side. You could pull into a campsite late at night and leave early in the morning and your neighbors would never know you were there. Stealth camping. ( Until that follow vehicle with the Honda generator shows up, or Mama yells at you while backing in with those little mirrors. )
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:23 AM   #31
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LEGO today decided that they could help Tesla make the truck look better
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:21 AM   #32
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Wonder if you can put a gooseneck in that electro-mobile truck thing? Kind of amuses that the folks who think electric is a green tech never wonder where the electric comes from... Maybe its all solar or wind power? Right.
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:37 AM   #33
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This electric truck seems a little more well thought out and a lot less pinewood derbyish



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Old 11-27-2019, 01:01 PM   #34
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Wonder if you can put a gooseneck in that electro-mobile truck thing? Kind of amuses that the folks who think electric is a green tech never wonder where the electric comes from... Maybe its all solar or wind power? Right.

Let's hope we never get there!! I live where the countryside is covered with wind turbines. I don't see a good thing about them. They have to be subsidized or they are too expensive to build or use. Every turbine is bought outside the US (per an engineer speaking to us a few years back), contains toxic chemicals, kills birds etc. etc. etc. Not to mention they are a huge blight on the land.

Now, as we speak, they are converting hundreds and hundreds of acres into "solar farms" in our neck of the woods. We have a couple currently but not over a hundred acres or so each. They are extremely ugly and remove any possible use of the land. Again, they are not feasible to use unless highly subsidized (that means you and me). I was just reading recently that they now are wondering what to do with them when they age out (doesn't take long) because they now understand that the panels are toxic and you can't just "dispose" of them. They are thinking about classifying them as toxic waste. Where's a good nuclear power plant when you need one?

Edit: Sorry, a little off topic but an electric truck has to get power from somewhere right?
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Old 11-27-2019, 04:09 PM   #35
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Danny, it just plugs in. No fuel, no oil, no propane or contaminents involved. The electricity is just there, simple as that. It’s magic. ��
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Danny, it just plugs in. No fuel, no oil, no propane or contaminents involved. The electricity is just there, simple as that. It’s magic. ��

THANKS Jim!! Sometimes I get down in the weeds a little; I forgot it's just so simple....
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:39 PM   #37
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This newfangled electric stuff is just wizardry I tell you.
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:48 PM   #38
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If I run out of gas or diesel I can get a few gallons to get to a station, if your electric thing goes dead I don't anyone with 25 to xx miles of extension cord that wants to sit for several hours til it's charged enough to get to a power source.
Besides being 3rd generation retired oilfield I'll stick with fossil fuels.
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Let's hope we never get there!! I live where the countryside is covered with wind turbines. I don't see a good thing about them. They have to be subsidized or they are too expensive to build or use. Every turbine is bought outside the US (per an engineer speaking to us a few years back), contains toxic chemicals, kills birds etc. etc. etc. Not to mention they are a huge blight on the land.

Now, as we speak, they are converting hundreds and hundreds of acres into "solar farms" in our neck of the woods. We have a couple currently but not over a hundred acres or so each. They are extremely ugly and remove any possible use of the land. Again, they are not feasible to use unless highly subsidized (that means you and me). I was just reading recently that they now are wondering what to do with them when they age out (doesn't take long) because they now understand that the panels are toxic and you can't just "dispose" of them. They are thinking about classifying them as toxic waste. Where's a good nuclear power plant when you need one?

Edit: Sorry, a little off topic but an electric truck has to get power from somewhere right?
I think the big ol windmills kind of dress up the bland scenery out there in West Texas! And toxic waste from those panels? Super glue 'em together, take 'em down to the border and set them up as fence. GO GREEN!

I honestly don't get this electric car (truck) thing. The electricity comes MOSTLY from fossil fuels burning smog into the atmosphere.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
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Danny, it just plugs in. No fuel, no oil, no propane or contaminents involved. The electricity is just there, simple as that. It’s magic. ��
Just like all the lithium, cobalt etc that makes the batteries in them and all the fancy cell phones. It all falls from the sky!

Never mind that it takes lots of fossil fuels to extract precious metals from the earth. And the toxins created to refine them.

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