White Knuckle Sway

[Scott902]

F450 does have that wide track, great turning front axle LOL

[tschott]

Well, Here we go. I want to thank you all for input on what works for you! I started with this Cougar 29BHS on a 2015 F150 (that I will miss immensely!) But after taken the same camper with the newer 2018 F350.... Not even comparable! We are taking it on a 300 mile round trip this weekend and I'm not worried about the sway with this MONSTER!
I'll let everyone know how is works out!

[meaz93*]

Nice truck tschott!, I think theirs enough 1ton for your TT..... you will be fine!-lol

[duh1]

A sway control bar will help. You are making the truck work pretty hard with that load. moved up from a 1500 to a 2500 diesel and it was the right thing for us. Can tow at 75 all day long. Really bad cross wind in the rockies will drop it to 55. The truck i have is really heavy (6800 lbs loaded) and settles the trailer right down. Chevy 2500 diesel + 2910 BH Passport. Both are loaded. Sway bar and tow bars make all the difference.

[notanlines]

Meaz, that expression comes because he wasn't in his car seat! And in response to the other posts, I believe that a good WDH and sway bar is imperative regardless of tow vehicle or TT. I will back off that statement if you have a hauler or are towing a trailer with lawn equipment.

[Snoking]

Originally Posted by duh1

A sway control bar will help. You are making the truck work pretty hard with that load. moved up from a 1500 to a 2500 diesel and it was the right thing for us. Can tow at 75 all day long. Really bad cross wind in the rockies will drop it to 55. The truck i have is really heavy (6800 lbs loaded) and settles the trailer right down. Chevy 2500 diesel + 2910 BH Passport. Both are loaded. Sway bar and tow bars make all the difference.

(6800 lbs loaded) Heavy??? My RAM 3500 4x4 CC SB SRW picture frame and manual slider, golf clubs, generator, fuel, tools, etc etc was 8900 ready to tow when full timing. Probably now weighs 8500 +/- towing the Laredo.

[ADQ K9]

I am pretty long at 60 FT total, but the tail never will wag the dog The truck is 8500# empty and the GVW of the trailer is 8800# I get to 8800 in the truck with me, the DW and two dogs in the cab. Throw a couple hundred pounds of coolers, firewood and tools in the bed plus the hitch weight and the truck is substantially heavier than the trailer. My WDH keeps both planted solid in windy conditions, and no rocking by passing semi trucks.

[tschott]

Well I'm happy to let all of you know that I made the correct decision with going with a larger truck. We ran through wind, rain, calm, bumpy, smooth, uphill, downhill, and curvy roads with NO problems!! It handled great and I even left the wife drive. She said how the truck makes pulling the camper seem tooooo easy! I think that is a good thing.
Thanks again for all the help.

[Logan X]

I’m glad to hear it worked out well for you! Congratulations on your new truck.

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by tschott

Well I'm happy to let all of you know that I made the correct decision with going with a larger truck. We ran through wind, rain, calm, bumpy, smooth, uphill, downhill, and curvy roads with NO problems!! It handled great and I even left the wife drive. She said how the truck makes pulling the camper seem tooooo easy! I think that is a good thing.
Thanks again for all the help.

Good to hear and thanks for the feedback!! Many think that everyone on the forum insists that those that don't have an HD truck or dually should have one. It's really a little different. Many push having the HD truck, or larger, so the tower has enough truck for the load to be carried. Once you reach the level of "enough" truck you can definitely tell the difference - you know you've reached a different plateau. Lots of folks don't understand that. Now, once you reach the point that the truck is plenty for the load (whether HD, 1 ton, dually etc.) going larger isn't really necessary unless the owner wants to or sees a larger trailer in their future.

[FlyingAroundRV]

Originally Posted by tschott

Well I'm happy to let all of you know that I made the correct decision with going with a larger truck. We ran through wind, rain, calm, bumpy, smooth, uphill, downhill, and curvy roads with NO problems!! It handled great and I even left the wife drive. She said how the truck makes pulling the camper seem tooooo easy! I think that is a good thing.
Thanks again for all the help.

Congratulations and welcome to the "believers" club. We also went with a bigger truck than we first planned, and like you, found towing now is soooo easy! This RVing is supposed to be FUN and with an adequate TV it IS.
Wishing you many happy, fun and SAFE miles.
One more piece of advice though, if I may, watch out for the tail swing in the turns, especially when pulling away from a curb.

[JRTJH]

Yet another example of "You just don't know what you don't know".....

When a novice starts doing something (anything) like towing and only has his personal experiences to compare, then towing with a "too light tow vehicle" feels "normal" because it's always felt this way.....

Once someone gets behind the wheel of a bigger (properly sized and equipped) tow vehicle with that same trailer, they almost always say, "WOW, what a difference. Now I understand what you've all been saying."

Until that happens, anyone who has only their own "abnormal towing" to consider "normal and the way it's supposed to be" they will never understand.

Another believer !!!!!

[Snoking]

It is always nice to hear the follow up. Thanks for posting your satisfaction with the new TV. Chris

[Fishsizzle]

Congrats! Glad it’s working out and kudos to you for an awesome attitude

[MVBrown]

Originally Posted by tschott

Well I'm happy to let all of you know that I made the correct decision with going with a larger truck. We ran through wind, rain, calm, bumpy, smooth, uphill, downhill, and curvy roads with NO problems!! It handled great and I even left the wife drive. She said how the truck makes pulling the camper seem tooooo easy! I think that is a good thing.
Thanks again for all the help.

Congratulations on the new truck!!! Yes, it truly is day and night when it comes to towing as you can see. We used to tow our Jayco 265RLS with a GMC 1500, and it did OK, but just OK. We moved up to a 2500 Hemi when we got the Cougar 32RLI, and while better. It can't compare to the 2500 diesel.

"It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so!"

[Fishsizzle]

Originally Posted by MVBrown

Congratulations on the new truck!!! Yes, it truly is day and night when it comes to towing as you can see. We used to tow our Jayco 265RLS with a GMC 1500, and it did OK, but just OK. We moved up to a 2500 Hemi when we got the Cougar 32RLI, and while better. It can't compare to the 2500 diesel.

P.S. Don't forget to bullet proof that beast after the warranty is out to give it that 250K miles of life without problems.

"It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so!"

Been mulling this one over,

What’s does he have to “bulletproof “ on a 2018 F350 when he hits 100k?

6.2 Gas nothing
6.7 diesel?

[Fishsizzle]

Originally Posted by MVBrown

Way before that the Lift Pump needs to be changed to save the Bosch (4.2) Injector Pump. Trailer Life magazine has a great article on this. Also his EGR cooler will fail as seen in The Long Long Honeymoon videos on YouTube.

The trailer life article dealt with the Chevy, that has no lift pump, the Ford 6.7 has a lift pump and is a serviceable part.

The EGR Cooler is also a serviceable part, and oil cooler as well. Both are easier to get to, and maintain.

The 6.7 is a pretty well designed engine. Your video looks to be for a 6.0, which yes l, is an awesome engine once “bulletproofed” and 6-8k investment
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[Snoking]

Originally Posted by MVBrown

Every truck has a Lift Pump (Fuel Pump) which is typically located in the gas tank. The article dealt with the Injector Pump (Bosch CP 4.2) which is part of the engine, and is on Chevrolet, and Ford (...Found on ’11-to-present Power Stroke and Duramax engines...). The aftermarket lift pump from say, FASS Fuel Systems, has the added benefit of insuring good lubrication to the poorly designed Bosch unit.

Duramax now uses the Japanese Denso injection pump, and saddly the next gen RAMs will have the CP4-2.

[travelin texans]

The only diesel engine that I recall that needed bullet proofing was/is the PS 6.0 which might help & might not. From my experience with the 6.0 you'd be better off to use the bullet to the head of that engine then repurpose it into a boat anchor.
All of the newer diesels are pretty tough & powerful & need no bullet proofing or aftermarket modifications to get the job done.

[Fishsizzle]

Originally Posted by MVBrown

Every truck has a Lift Pump (Fuel Pump) which is typically located in the gas tank. The article dealt with the Injector Pump (Bosch CP 4.2) which is part of the engine, and is on Chevrolet, and Ford (...Found on ’11-to-present Power Stroke and Duramax engines...). The aftermarket lift pump from say, FASS Fuel Systems, has the added benefit of insuring good lubrication to the poorly designed Bosch unit.

I don’t think GM uses a “lift” pump.

http://www.duramaxhub.com/duramax-problems.html

I have my articles crossed on this and will find it.