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Old 11-03-2015, 06:16 PM   #1
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hot water tank winterized

I winterized our Sprinter 5th wheel this weekend and when I pulled the plug from the hot water tank it had a rod with a diode . My previous camper was a Jayco and its water heater only had a plastic plug . the problem is when I pulled the rod out it seemed to be eroded and there was flakes in the water coming out. how often should this diode be replaced ? this is a brand new 5er.
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:28 PM   #2
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Depending on how much the rod is eroded you can usually go 2 years without changing. The factory one lasted me a year. The replacement aluminum one from CW is almost 2 years old and it looks fine. I lightly sand mine every fall when I winterize.
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:33 PM   #3
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First of all, it's an ANODE rod (diodes are electronic components). Atwood water heaters have a "bi metal" tank and don't require an anode., The only have a plastic drain plug. Suburban water heaters have a "porcelain coated" tank and do require an anode rod. The anode rod is incorporated in the drain plug. Your Jayco apparently had an Atwood water heater and your current trailer has a Suburban water heater.

Your water heater instruction manual addresses when to change an anode rod. Most of us change it out at the end of the season (if it is eroded beyond about 50%) and start with a "new, fresh rod" in the spring when we dewinterize.

The purpose of the anode rod is to protect your porcelain coated tank from corrosion. The rod is made of magnesium or aluminum and is "sacrificial" in that it will erode, saving the more expensive tank. The "factory anode" is normally magnesium. Depending on the water in your area, you may find that the magnesium anode rod will erode very rapidly. If it does, the factory recommends that you change to an aluminum anode rod. Usually the aluminum rod will not erode as rapidly.

All of this information is in your owner's manual. If you don't have the Suburban water heater manual, you can download it online at the Suburban site. If you can't find it online, let us know and we'll locate the link for you.
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Old 11-03-2015, 11:39 PM   #4
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From all the research I have done on when to replace the ANODE rod, they say it all depends on the quality of your water you use. Some water can destroy the rod in two or three months, others can last six, twelve months or more. This is also coupled with how often you use the rig and have water in the heater.

But, I've been told to watch your water quality most. I spent several weeks researching this to make sure.
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Old 11-04-2015, 11:18 AM   #5
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my last trip of the year is coming up this weekend and I plan on pulling mine out and checking it out. I have a spare on backup courtesy of amazon. I have no idea what mine will look like but why not keep a spare when its like 15$!

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Old 11-04-2015, 02:32 PM   #6
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I'm on well water and I've changed mine twice. Did I really need too? Not really as they weren't that bad and not even close to the core but for the cost of a rod compared to the cost of a new tank it's worth the few bucks
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Old 11-09-2015, 08:33 PM   #7
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Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone found that on there anode there is a slimy coating on it, some times almost looks like frog eggs. I have bleached the water system several times to no avail, our last TT did this also, we don't drink the water in the trailer, should I be concerned?
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Old 11-09-2015, 08:42 PM   #8
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Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone found that on there anode there is a slimy coating on it, some times almost looks like frog eggs. I have bleached the water system several times to no avail, our last TT did this also, we don't drink the water in the trailer, should I be concerned?
No problem, that's the way an anode rod looks in most water supplies. If you pull the rod, let it dry and examine it, you'll see that those "frog eggs" will have dried and turned white. That's the corrosive "protection" the anode is "sacrificing" to "save" the water heater tank from corrosion.

If you think your RV anode looks "ugly", when you get time, try to get your home water heater anode rod out of the tank. (You'll probably need an impact wrench to break it loose)... Your home anode will probably look "ugly enough" that you'll want to bathe in bottled water. Just remember, bottled water would problaby do the same thing to the anode if you could pump it into your house or RV water system.

I wouldn't worry about the appearance of the anode, just be sure there's enough "sacrificial metal" remaining to keep your tank protected until the next time you check.
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:06 PM   #9
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Thank you so much for the reply, man I love this forum, good people with real experience, appreciated, thanks again.
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:07 PM   #10
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Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone found that on there anode there is a slimy coating on it, some times almost looks like frog eggs. I have bleached the water system several times to no avail, our last TT did this also, we don't drink the water in the trailer, should I be concerned?
My first thought is that the slimy coating is caused by bacteria reacting with the anode in your heater. There are some kinds of "slime-forming" bacteria present in water from certain areas. I would switch to a different type of anode and see if you notice any improvement and also make sure that your HW tank is completely flushed out after you drain it. There may be some sediment in the bottom that is contributing to the problem.

If you are concerned about the water quality in your HW tank, you might consider taking a sample of water from the HW tank to Public Health and get it tested for bacteria and other creepy crawlies. If you sanitize your FW tank on a regular basis, you shouldn't have any issues with bacteria.
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:41 PM   #11
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Me and my family have been drinking the tap water for as long as I can remember, never had a problem, our TT fresh water tank almost always gets fillled from our tap water, but I like the idea of the water testing, I will do that in the spring, I have already winterized our TT. Thanks for the advise.
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Old 11-10-2015, 06:14 AM   #12
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I just took mine out and it was almost gone. When I took it out white stuff was in the bottom of the tank. I just used my garden hose with a jet nozzle and shot water in there to wash it out. Replaced the rod and left what water in the tank that didn't come out.I did however forget to blow out the toilet so i have to go to the storage yard and bring it back home
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Old 11-10-2015, 06:23 AM   #13
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http://www.waterheaterrescue.com/pag...er-anodes.html
Check these pictures out. not the length we use but you can see a new versus an old rod. Basically the same as ours HWH. also a good read on this page.
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Old 11-10-2015, 07:38 AM   #14
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I just took mine out for inspection and winterization and after four months of trailer usage it looked pretty new. It was a little slimy. Blowing out the tank with a jet certainly got a little debris out but seems to be working as designed. I got a wand off amazon that did the trick for blasting it out.
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Old 11-15-2015, 04:33 PM   #15
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They do make a nozzle that you can put on your hose to flush out your water heater. You can get them at CW or most RV places for about ten bucks or so. Handy to have.
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