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Originally Posted by sourdough
You are in the situation many get caught in; sales guy said vs what the real life, posted capabilities of a truck are. In that game the sales guy (sales manager) is irrelevant. Can your truck "pull" the weight, sure. Is your truck rated to "carry", "hold", "support" the weight legally...no. There's no need to pull your hair out or any ambiguity.....except from the selling folks. Weights, and the limitations, are posted all over the place. THEY are what dictate what you can/can't tow; not a salesman, or a good friend, or etc. etc. Easy peasy if you want to abide by the rules.
Look at the sticker on your truck; note the gawr (front/rear), gvwr, gcvwr and payload. You need to be under all those numbers....comfortably with your trailer. If you exceed ANY of them, you are overweight....period. It can be confusing if you listen to all the "voices" that may or may not know what they're talking about, or care, but the numbers are there and they don't lie.
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I would add to that: do not trust any weight value for a specific truck that you get from a brochure, web site, dealer's mouth, etc, as others have mentioned, those numbers are manipulated and cooked to serve specific agendas. The only way to know what a given truck really weighs is to put it on a scale (CAT scale, local gravel pit, etc.) and actually weigh it. After you do that, you can subtract that number from the GVWR on the yellow sticker and you will know your
real payload/pin-weight capacity (be sure to allow for passengers, full tank, hitch weight, dog, etc.). Same thing with GCWR, subtract the truck's actual weight and you will know your max trailer weight, although it seems like GVWR/pin weight is usually the limiting factor, before you even get close to theoretical max trailer weight based on GCWR.