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01-08-2018, 09:55 AM
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New Ford F150 Diesel
For those that haven't seen ......
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...cid=spartandhp
The payloads are still too low for a very big trailer......
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01-08-2018, 11:56 AM
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I don't know......it seems to me that putting a diesel in a half ton, is like putting Babe Ruth in to bunt his way on base!
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01-08-2018, 12:19 PM
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^^^What he said.
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01-08-2018, 01:54 PM
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Funny that it looks like 300lbs less payload than an ecoboost. Yet engine is only 150lbs more...whered the other 150 go??
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01-08-2018, 01:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xrated
I don't know......it seems to me that putting a diesel in a half ton, is like putting Babe Ruth in to bunt his way on base!
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Sure, that'd be true, but they pull 1/2 the displacement out of it. The Ford should surpass the EcoDiesel - Ram (at least per media) - but having owned other Ford diesels (non-heavy-duty) - they can be oddball for support. And basically every single manufacturer of a mid-sized diesel motor has been in hot water in the USA.
I'm glad they're producing one. I'd love to see an EcoDiesel in a Wranger platform.
Regardless, with 400ftlbs, and 250+ hp, it should move out of it's own way jus fine and still pull 11k lbs..
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01-08-2018, 04:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcg9381
Sure, that'd be true, but they pull 1/2 the displacement out of it. The Ford should surpass the EcoDiesel - Ram (at least per media) - but having owned other Ford diesels (non-heavy-duty) - they can be oddball for support. And basically every single manufacturer of a mid-sized diesel motor has been in hot water in the USA.
I'm glad they're producing one. I'd love to see an EcoDiesel in a Wranger platform.
Regardless, with 400ftlbs, and 250+ hp, it should move out of it's own way jus fine and still pull 11k lbs..
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If....it's got enough payload capacity to do so....I'd be sceptical, but then again I haven't seen any numbers.
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01-08-2018, 04:43 PM
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There were a few surprises in the article, nothing "earth shattering" but not typical for Ford. First, the diesel is only available in Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum trim levels. That means it's only available in the most heavy models. Also, it looks like it's only available in CC and SC models with the two longest wheelbases. It is available in lighter trims in fleet sales, but only in SC and CC models, and fleet sales are not available to the general public.
Apparently the largest payload is around 2020 pounds. As a note, that is comparable to a diesel equipped F250 Lariat or King Ranch with the 10K GVW. Not reading anything into the offerings, but I wonder if the F250 diesel may fall out of the lineup? With the changes in transmission for the gas model and now the payload "closeness" with the diesel F150, there may be some plans in the works? Time will tell I suppose.
From the pictures in the article, it's AWESOME (over the top ???) that there's finally a DEF tank gauge !!!!!
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01-08-2018, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freeheel4life
Funny that it looks like 300lbs less payload than an ecoboost. Yet engine is only 150lbs more...whered the other 150 go??
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Probably in the SCR, DPF, DEF tank.
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01-08-2018, 06:32 PM
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My 2017 F-350 has both the DEF gauge and the digital DEF miles left display.
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01-08-2018, 06:58 PM
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My 2015 F250 is seriously lacking in the DEF instrumentation department. The only "gauge" is a status display that indicates, FULL, LESS THAN HALF or "SERIOUSLY ABOUT TO BE EMPTY" (my paraphrase). There is no indication of miles left, miles travelled or regeneration status. The only indication that the DEF system is in use is a "1 second notice" that flashes on the instrument panel at the beginning of the regeneration program. Otherwise, the only indication is the "instant fuel mileage" which goes from 19+ to around 12 during regeneration.
It's nice to see Ford finally add a computer program that produces a gauge and hopefully a regeneration status for the operator's convenience.
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01-09-2018, 05:16 AM
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Just sounds like a PIA to me, same as the Ram ecodiesel as I don't really think diesels are made to be driven around town all the time to get groceries. I really don't think people that buy one are buying them specifically to pull a camper with so whats the point, extra maintenance and expense for..... Just my opinion.
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01-09-2018, 05:22 AM
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Not made to drive around town? Mercedes people might disagree.
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01-09-2018, 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckster57
Not made to drive around town? Mercedes people might disagree.
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More like, 80% of Europe might disagree.
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01-09-2018, 07:58 AM
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Our daily driver since 1-1-06 has been a 3500 GMC DRW diesel, have had only minor issues from just driving around town. As far as more expensive to maintain I haven't noticed that. My previous '05 had 176k when traded & the current '13 has 114k & still going strong. Where you'll get your oil changed every 3-5k miles, mines every 10k or once a year for which I can usually find a coupon to have it done for $59.95 to $69.95 that equates to about 2 changes on a gasser. If you're counting the DEF as maintenance, I'll have to add 2.5 gallons about every 3000-3500 miles, so at max it's 12.95 for that 2.5 gallons that's less than a half a cent per mile.
I will say we are about ready to get something with smaller hips, if they'd go back to putting diesels in Jeeps I'd buy one tomorrow.
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