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12-14-2016, 07:28 AM
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VIN Location on Keystone
Does Keystone have the VIN stamped in frame anywhere or is it only on the weight info sticker on the left front of the unit?
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12-14-2016, 07:31 AM
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I don't know if the VIN is actually stamped anywhere, but my Keystone has a VIN tag riveted to the tongue on the driver's side.
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12-14-2016, 05:30 PM
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Same here. VIN is stamped on a tag and riveted onto the pin box drivers side.
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12-14-2016, 07:16 PM
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I have a 2012 copper canyon 273FWRET, I will have to look and see if it has a VIN tag on the pin box. Can't say I've seen VIN's stamped on frames on any unit I have worked on.
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12-14-2016, 07:56 PM
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Thanks
Thanks for the info, I'm going over to the storage lot tomorrow and will look for the tag.
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12-14-2016, 08:07 PM
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The location for any other places the VIN maybe besides the tag on the door or side front or metal plate on frame tongue would be called the non public location. Some call it the secret VIN. That is the wrong name. Being non public it should not be disclosed. If you cannot find the VIN the state troopers or DMV or some police depts. will find it. You can get the VIN from reading the axle numbers and phoning Dexter. By having ALL vehicles sold in the USA, including RVs having a non public numbers helps recover stolen vehicles.
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12-14-2016, 08:35 PM
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I don't know that axle tags count. What if we change them?
On edit: let's say my Al Ko axles need to be replaced. I'm well past warranty, so we order a set of Dexter's. to my knowledge the VIN of the unit they are being installed on isn't part of the order. I will check tomorrow to be sure. Warranty replacement may be different, but all we are required to do is submit a picture with the original axle tag and the axle cut in half to prevent use on another unit.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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12-15-2016, 11:52 AM
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Axle tags are a source for a VIN. As a vehicle part That is traceable to the original vehicle. Same as the engine, transmission, air bags etc. on many vehicles. As a part they can be replaced. So as a officer investigating, in this case you would know brand and length of trailer and about the year built by style etc. You run the axle numbers and it comes up with nothing or say a trailer much different than you have you would know they have been replaced. Been there done that with boats and auto's.
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2013 24RKSWE (27ft TT) Cougar 1/2 ton series SOLD 10-2021
2013 Ford F350 4x4 CC 6.7 engine, 8 ft bed, 3.55 rear end, lariat package
Retired from Oregon State Police in 2011 than worked another 9.5 years as a small town traffic cop:
As of 05-2020, I am all done with 39 years total police work. No more uniforms for me.
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12-15-2016, 01:17 PM
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I'm kind of late to the game but, I just got home and went out and checked mine (2017 Impact 303) and there is a stamped metal tag on the A Frame arm (driver's side) and it's riveted to the frame....just about even with the battery tray.
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12-16-2016, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken / Claudia
The location for any other places the VIN maybe besides the tag on the door or side front or metal plate on frame tongue would be called the non public location. Some call it the secret VIN. That is the wrong name. Being non public it should not be disclosed. If you cannot find the VIN the state troopers or DMV or some police depts. will find it. You can get the VIN from reading the axle numbers and phoning Dexter. By having ALL vehicles sold in the USA, including RVs having a non public numbers helps recover stolen vehicles.
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Its called a CVIN (confidential vin) and yes they are in various locations on frames and major parts.
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12-16-2016, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimQ
Its called a CVIN (confidential vin) and yes they are in various locations on frames and major parts.
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I've been stem to stern on a whole bunch of trailers, underneath with the entire underbelly off, if it's on the frame it must be in magic marker invisible ink.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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12-16-2016, 04:57 PM
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Yes, confidential location works. We had a problem with that in court and the DA advised use the term non public. A longer story goes along with that.
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2013 24RKSWE (27ft TT) Cougar 1/2 ton series SOLD 10-2021
2013 Ford F350 4x4 CC 6.7 engine, 8 ft bed, 3.55 rear end, lariat package
Retired from Oregon State Police in 2011 than worked another 9.5 years as a small town traffic cop:
As of 05-2020, I am all done with 39 years total police work. No more uniforms for me.
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