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Old 11-29-2018, 08:43 PM   #41
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Wow, thanks for giving us some "behind the scenes" information as to what goes into maintaining the site. I had not thought that much about all of the work conducted by the mods!
First, be aware that the moderators do not receive any compensation for what we do. It's all volunteer (read: FREE) work from each of us.

Just a part of what we do: Every new member application is reviewed, IP address checked (even though often it may be shadowed), every post is read by at least one moderator, usually by 3, 4 or all 5 of us, obvious misspellings in thread titles are corrected (to help make searching easier): It's tough to find "How do I tow my Kerpstine trairler" when someone goes looking for their thread 3 months from now. We help with "how do I" questions, PM's and posts, keep threads organized and with some exceptions (like this one), try to keep them on topic. I think all the mods get PM's daily asking for help or advice on a topic a member doesn't want to post publically. When there's a questionable post, we don't just "shut things down" rather we "behind the scenes" discuss the situation in group PM's. We all offer input and then come up with a "consensus" on how to correct the problem or how to address a situation. There is very little "cowboy approach" to how we communicate with members. Usually all 5 of us are well aware of the situation and have agreed to the course of action, so when one moderator sends you a PM informing you that your post was removed, it's not "just that mod's idea" but typically all 5 of us have already agreed that there's a problem and how to address it.

Very little on the forum is "a one person decision" and even though, if you're on the receiving end, it may come across as "pushing your buttons" none of what we do is intended to be a personal confrontation.

We think we've got a "good little forum" filled with great advice and help, available for a wonderful price (free) and it's all, for the most part, because of the members who contribute by posting advice, personal experiences and problems/solutions they have encountered, hoping to prevent someone else from walking in the same steps... So far, I think we're all (as members) doing a super job and I know I speak for all the moderators when I say that we appreciate every member who helps us keep this forum the best place to get information about Keystone RV's.

Thanks to all of you for making our job easier.

OK site team, do I get my raise now ????
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:20 PM   #42
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First, be aware that the moderators do not receive any compensation for what we do. It's all volunteer (read: FREE) work from each of us.

Just a part of what we do: Every new member application is reviewed, IP address checked (even though often it may be shadowed), every post is read by at least one moderator, usually by 3, 4 or all 5 of us, obvious misspellings in thread titles are corrected (to help make searching easier): It's tough to find "How do I tow my Kerpstine trairler" when someone goes looking for their thread 3 months from now. We help with "how do I" questions, PM's and posts, keep threads organized and with some exceptions (like this one), try to keep them on topic. I think all the mods get PM's daily asking for help or advice on a topic a member doesn't want to post publically. When there's a questionable post, we don't just "shut things down" rather we "behind the scenes" discuss the situation in group PM's. We all offer input and then come up with a "consensus" on how to correct the problem or how to address a situation. There is very little "cowboy approach" to how we communicate with members. Usually all 5 of us are well aware of the situation and have agreed to the course of action, so when one moderator sends you a PM informing you that your post was removed, it's not "just that mod's idea" but typically all 5 of us have already agreed that there's a problem and how to address it.

Very little on the forum is "a one person decision" and even though, if you're on the receiving end, it may come across as "pushing your buttons" none of what we do is intended to be a personal confrontation.

We think we've got a "good little forum" filled with great advice and help, available for a wonderful price (free) and it's all, for the most part, because of the members who contribute by posting advice, personal experiences and problems/solutions they have encountered, hoping to prevent someone else from walking in the same steps... So far, I think we're all (as members) doing a super job and I know I speak for all the moderators when I say that we appreciate every member who helps us keep this forum the best place to get information about Keystone RV's.

Thanks to all of you for making our job easier.

OK site team, do I get my raise now ????
Thanks John and site team. In fact I am submitting a RFPR for every site team member (request for pay raise). I know that previously those services were provided for free, but now, under my guidance, you will be compensated at 4 times your normal fee!!

Silliness aside, I will tell you now that this is the best site I belong to; and I belong to many. It actually feels like "family" - guess that comes from when you get this age and you aren't really "tied" to folks like you used to be. I appreciate everything the site does for us, lets us post relevant issues and discuss those things that are important right now.

This is a "good little forum", probably the best I belong to. Of course I don't get to hear all the f words and junk that you would on other, more lively, forums....thank goodness.

And here we are....nothing like a great spot to just talk about what we love...camping and RVs!! Plus, It's Merry Christmas Time....Wishing it to one and ALL!
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:31 AM   #43
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I also am a member of quite a few forums. Things I like about this one is the wealth of knowledge and the acceptance of my poor attempt at humour, But we do have some real "Bob Hopes" on here and that does lighten up some tense situations. Moderators keep doing what you do it is appreciated.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:00 PM   #44
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Good notes on internet etiquette and being safe with your information. I work in cyber-security and cannot emphasize how easy it is for people to get personal information and use it maliciously. Hint, it is very easy.

Back to the original topic, the OP had asked about determining the vehicle dry weight. I would counter that if you just focus on the payload and staying within that spec, then you do not need dry weight. Just plan on max GVWR for the TV (which will imply that you are max payload). Combine that with making sure your trailer is under the max rating for the TV (should be 2 different numbers provided - traditional trailer/bumper pull, and gooseneck/fifth wheel) and you will have the GCWR for the TV. As an added consideration, if you are looking at a fifth wheel, rear axle rating is also important. A large and high-end 5er can easily have a tongue weight over over 3000# on its own. That is weight that is pretty much 100% on your rear axle and tires.

Hope this helps some!
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:38 AM   #45
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Open the driver side door and look for the Max payload. that will tell you how much weight you can add. I had a 1/2 ton that would pull my TT but my payload was 1,000 pounds. So the tongue weight was 850 and if my wife and I got in we were 150 lbs over, an we are thin. You do not want to haul over payload, for safety and legal reasons
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:13 AM   #46
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The sticker payload number is a one time measurement. After buying my truck, I added Line-X bed liner, a tonneau cover and few other mods so IMO, you're best to go to a scale with a full tank of fuel and all your passengers on board and get an actual weight if you want the true available payload number. CAT scales are the best for this since you get individual axle weights.

In the KYD video linked earlier, he assumed some weight for cargo in the bed of the truck but it looks like he didn't account for the weight of the fifth wheel hitch which can be 150# - 300# depending on the model, plus any rails (above bed or below). If you went with the Andersen Ultimate aluminum hitch you'd have to account for the underbed gooseneck hitch unless you have the OEM prep package.

Personally, my goal is to stay under the GVWR, RAWR and GCWR for my truck. I could live with being over the GVWR by maybe 200# but that would be as much risk as I'm willing to take. I know the Engineers build in a safety factor, but I want to enjoy the benefit of the entire safety factor and not compromise my safety in an emergency stopping situation.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:18 AM   #47
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John, just hit it on the head about information on sites....I used to work for a large Police Dept. in CA and had a case where the Police Dept. web site was good, but the City payroll site wasn't good....A young girl who got into drugs and was very good on the computer, would stay up all night just looking, got into the city webpage, and was able to get over 60 Officers total information, she sold the info. for big money and made it a living hell for these Officers from car loans to home loans....After she was caught, I interviewed her and she said once your in, she could get everything on a person....she just started or could have hit 2,000 more Officers and who knows how many other City Employees....when she was high, she would stay on the computers for days....LOOKING...Please check your Credit every couple months and your Credits Cards monthly...
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