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11-29-2018, 03:03 PM
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New Fuzion 419 Owner- questions
Hey folks, I'm a new Keystone Fuzion owner. I had the Fuzion 419 toy hauler delivered last night. Even after the walk through I have a number of questions and I'm hoping for some help.
If someone feels these should all be different threads, I can do that as well.
4G/LTE - Where is the unit? I assume I need to activate it, perhaps add a sim card. I just can't find it.
Batteries- It looks like I have two battery trays, one about 16" on top and one 12" on the bottom. Has anyone put in multiple batteries and if so, what is the best configuration? Is there a place to isolate a battery just for the generator?
Solar- I see a sticker in the cargo area referencing Jaboni Power Products and that the unit is equipped to accept solar. States that the wiring is located behind the bulkhead. I can't find anything.
Switches- Wow I wish they had a map of what all the switches do. Anyone know what the switch next to the antenna amplifier is? They placed it in the over head cabinet to the left of the master bed. Strange place to put it as it is no where near a TV.
Thanks for everyone's help!
Michael
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11-29-2018, 03:19 PM
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Congratulations on your new trailer! I don’t know the answer to any of those questions but I wish you good luck!
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11-29-2018, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan X
Congratulations on your new trailer! I don’t know the answer to any of those questions but I wish you good luck!
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Thank you!
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11-30-2018, 08:22 AM
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Welcome to the forum! The switch next to the booster button might be a speaker on off switch. Others have reported that in the past.
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11-30-2018, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ctbruce
Welcome to the forum! The switch next to the booster button might be a speaker on off switch. Others have reported that in the past.
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Thanks for the information. I’ll check that out.
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11-30-2018, 08:42 AM
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Regarding your batteries, I swapped out my one 12v deep cycle battery for two 6v deep cycle batteries joined in series. Running them in series increases the voltage output from 6 to 12v. With that set up, I increased my amp hours (ah) (the amount of energy I can store) from 75 ah to 235 ah. The 6v batteries typically have a much higher amp hour rating than a 12v.
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11-30-2018, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan X
Regarding your batteries, I swapped out my one 12v deep cycle battery for two 6v deep cycle batteries joined in series. Running them in series increases the voltage output from 6 to 12v. With that set up, I increased my amp hours (ah) (the amount of energy I can store) from 75 ah to 235 ah. The 6v batteries typically have a much higher amp hour rating than a 12v.
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I saw a little information about that and thought two 6V could go on the top rack and one 12V could likely sit on the bottom.
Do you have that In-Command system? I understand that the system can monitor both batteries.
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11-30-2018, 09:14 AM
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I am not an expert, but I don’t think it is good to mix the types of batteries in your battery bank. They should all be the same size and type. If you can fit them, you can run four 6v batteries. Two in series to get the 12v output and two in parallel to double the amp hours.
https://www.batterystuff.com/kb/arti...-tutorial.html
Like I said I’m not an expert so double check this information. Anyone who knows more feel free to correct me.
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11-30-2018, 02:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaliebe
I saw a little information about that and thought two 6V could go on the top rack and one 12V could likely sit on the bottom.
Do you have that In-Command system? I understand that the system can monitor both batteries.
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I'm trying to visualize the space you describe and how it might function. I'm guessing that possibly the two 6 volt batteries sitting on the top rack would be connected together and charged by the converter/charger supplying 12VDC power to the trailer electrical system and the single 12VDC battery sitting on the bottom rack would be connected to the generator as a "power source for the generator". The two systems (one 12VDC battery in one system and two 6VDC batteries in the second system) would be wired separately and the two systems not interconnected. That way, two similar batteries would be connected (avoiding the problem with different batteries not functioning well together) and the other battery would essentially be on a different system.
I've seen several wired that way and some fifth wheels (like yours) have space for three batteries. While I suppose you could wire three 12VDC batteries in parallel (keeping 12VDC with 3x the amp hours) usually "hybrid deep cycle/marine batteries" don't hold up to multiple deep discharges as well as "golf cart batteries".
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12-01-2018, 07:20 AM
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If you want to use Keystones new 4G/LTE you will need to purchase correct modem to work with their system...
4G LTE and Wi-Fi are Standard in Keystone Line
September 18, 2018 by RVBusiness
Addressing the growing need for connectivity in RVs, Keystone RV Co. is equipping its entire towable lineup with 4G LTE and Wi-Fi ready capability.
Set to roll out at the Sept. 24-27 Elkhart RV Open House, the new Furrion technology offers an antenna that integrates 4G LTE and Wi-Fi with standard VHF/UHF/AM/FM reception. According to a press release, Wi-Fi and cellular signals are routed to a wall-mounted base inside the trailer.
Owners looking for enhanced connectivity can purchase a Furrion modem that easily snaps into the factory-installed base plate, boosting existing Wi-Fi to provide the best possible connection. For untethered connectivity, owners can purchase cellular data plans through Furrion or from their wireless provider.
“Keystone is committed to delivering the ultimate ownership experience and part of that is leading with innovation that sets the industry standard for comfort, quality, safety and convenience,” said Keystone CEO Matt Zimmerman. “Equipping every Keystone RV with the ability to easily access internet service is a natural next step, and one that we felt was important for us to invest in.”
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12-01-2018, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckS
If you want to use Keystones new 4G/LTE you will need to purchase correct modem to work with their system...
Owners looking for enhanced connectivity can purchase a Furrion modem that easily snaps into the factory-installed base plate, boosting existing Wi-Fi to provide the best possible connection. For untethered connectivity, owners can purchase cellular data plans through Furrion or from their wireless provider.
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i thought so too but there is no base or provision I can find for 4G. Generally, when something is provided with 4G LTE, there is a cell card built into the panel like in a home security panel, or a separate module. The In-Command doesn't reference 4G either so I'm still at a loss.
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12-03-2018, 09:04 PM
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I replied to this in another thread however the 4G option is a Winegard antenna preinstalled on the roof and this holds a SIM card. There is a power switch in the trailer to turn it on and off. I believe you can put a Verizon SIM card in it and set up a pay as you go program.
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12-05-2018, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaliebe
Hey folks, I'm a new Keystone Fuzion owner. I had the Fuzion 419 toy hauler delivered last night. Even after the walk through I have a number of questions and I'm hoping for some help.
If someone feels these should all be different threads, I can do that as well.
4G/LTE - Where is the unit? I assume I need to activate it, perhaps add a sim card. I just can't find it.
Batteries- It looks like I have two battery trays, one about 16" on top and one 12" on the bottom. Has anyone put in multiple batteries and if so, what is the best configuration? Is there a place to isolate a battery just for the generator?
Solar- I see a sticker in the cargo area referencing Jaboni Power Products and that the unit is equipped to accept solar. States that the wiring is located behind the bulkhead. I can't find anything.
Switches- Wow I wish they had a map of what all the switches do. Anyone know what the switch next to the antenna amplifier is? They placed it in the over head cabinet to the left of the master bed. Strange place to put it as it is no where near a TV.
Thanks for everyone's help!
Michael
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I have a Raptor so not sure how much is the same. I can't answer the wifi because I don't have it on mine. Batteries, as some have said you could use 2-6volt or 2-12volt, on mine I have a place for 3 batteries and chose to use 3-12volts and as far as a separate battery for gen, if you have an auto-start on your control panel in your on-command, just set that to auto and it will auto start when your batteries get to a certain voltage with no worries of running batteries down. For solar on mine I have an external plug-in point on the curb side of the rv though I've not used it. As someone else mentioned the switch your asking about very well maybe the speaker switch for the bedroom speakers.
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12-06-2018, 09:47 AM
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Mike, the switch in the bedroom next to the Antenna Boosted is for turning the Boosted on and off, The Solar is just advising that it is wired, may find the wiring on the roof, and the other end near the battery boxes, Switches, If you look up your Fuzion on line, sometimes the wiring info is listed...Good Luck, very nice unit, look the garage, mind is only 13ft
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12-06-2018, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NevadaRich
Mike, the switch in the bedroom next to the Antenna Boosted is for turning the Boosted on and off, The Solar is just advising that it is wired, may find the wiring on the roof, and the other end near the battery boxes, Switches, If you look up your Fuzion on line, sometimes the wiring info is listed...Good Luck, very nice unit, look the garage, mind is only 13ft
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On the solar, that is what I gathered too. I thought I’d find wiring or a junction box leading to a solar controller but to date, nothing is apparent.
The 15’ garage is what we really wanted. Should be enough room to put the RXR XP1000 and a quad (sideways) in the back.
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12-06-2018, 12:01 PM
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My Can-Am takes up the garage and only leaves me with the size of a door to the kitchen, so it may still be short for the quad..I don't know how wide your quad is but the tires are wider then the body....Tha's a lot of weight also
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12-06-2018, 01:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NevadaRich
My Can-Am takes up the garage and only leaves me with the size of a door to the kitchen, so it may still be short for the quad..I don't know how wide your quad is but the tires are wider then the body....Tha's a lot of weight also
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My RZR is 120” in length. It should leave me enough run to put in a quad sideways 45”-48”. At least that is the plan...
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12-06-2018, 12:15 PM
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The switch you are referring to on my 427 is for a wi fi antenna called sky ranger and it's located above the bedroom on the driver's side of the roof. If you stand back far enough you can see the antenna. It works with the In Command system to allow it to be connected to the internet through a wifi system thus allowing remote control access to the your In Command system from anywhere.
As far as the jabroni wiring for solar panels I haven't quite figured out where they come out yet and I have looked for then several times before I put it away for the winter.
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12-06-2018, 01:17 PM
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Not a Keystone owner but be careful in your generator-battery hook up. My dealer installed a separate battery for my 5.5kw Onan and only hooked it up to the gen. After two boondock camping trips and generator dying for no reason I discovered that the generator does not have a charging circuit, needs 12v to run and it was running the battery down and dying. House battery gets charged with the converter. So, either hook the gen battery to the house battery to allow for charging or set up a dedicated charger for the gen battery that runs off of 12v when it is available.
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12-23-2018, 07:54 AM
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The switch in the cabinet next to the amplifier is to turn on and off the cellular and wifi boost and it's also a internet router itself. When in use it will boost a signal if you have poor cell signal and also boost the signal from the camp wifi. It location should be on the roof right above where the switch is.
Solar prep: Depending on the year your solor prep is on the roof.
Hope this helps
I have a 2019 Fuzion 419
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