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04-01-2012, 02:29 PM
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2012 End Cap Fade
Just got back from a weekend jaunt, parked the RV and noticed in direct sunlight the cap is fading! That nice dark grey is turning lighter at the top and working its way down.
Sad to see since we only bought it in July 2011. And unfortunately the RV faces west. Would have figured over time but less than a year?
Anyone else experience this on the new 2012 paint scheme? Any suggestions for a good wax maybe?
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2012 Cougar 324 RLB
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04-01-2012, 05:06 PM
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People swear by 303 Aerospace Protectant.
http://www.303products.com/
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04-01-2012, 05:08 PM
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I'll take a look... Its oxidized up top... Hopefully it will bring the original color back. Thanks
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04-02-2012, 11:59 AM
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Have you waxed or applied any protectant, since you bought it?
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04-04-2012, 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grayghost03
Have you waxed or applied any protectant, since you bought it?
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No... Guess I assumed!
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04-04-2012, 12:41 PM
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I wonder if it's oxidizing versus sun-fading. Also wonder if LiquidGlass might be good on that cap. Seems to work great on my cars. It's pricey though.
Pardon my thinking out loud
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04-04-2012, 07:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CampDestinations.com
I wonder if it's oxidizing versus sun-fading. Also wonder if LiquidGlass might be good on that cap. Seems to work great on my cars. It's pricey though.
Pardon my thinking out loud
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No prob here... What ever it is, DW and i agree it aint right. Always open for suggestions!
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04-05-2012, 09:51 AM
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Now I got to go look closer at mine. And if all is well Im spraying some 303 on it pronto!
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04-10-2012, 01:53 PM
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2012 End Cap Fade
Gee, it's always fun to join another club Last week my dealer replaced all of the graphics on my 2011 High Country 291LRS nose, Keystone ate the graphics and installation, all last month we cleaned roof (well RHDW did), three other sides, windows and waxed (Liquid Gloss) all but the nose. I didn't notice that the nose had oxidation from the top 2/3 of the way down because the graphics made me sick. The mountains were peeling and the swoops (maybe global warming?), the dealer didn't want me to wax the nose so I didn't. Went out to the lot today and WOW do I have my work cut out!
Polishing Compound didn't even touch it.
Going back tonight to try rubbing compound.
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Riley (Monster Yorkie)
2011 High Country 291RLS, SteadyFast, XM Radio, Awning Sun Shade.
2011 Ford F-150 Platinum, 6.2L, Max Tow Package
Voliant Ram Air, MagnaFlow Cat-Back, Hypertech Chip, On Board Lift Bags, Anzo Projector Headlights & LED Tailights, Pace Rolling Padded Hard Cover.
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04-10-2012, 02:44 PM
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Have you checked into any marine fiberglass restoring products? Ive found that many marine products work very well on RV's. 3M makes a few of them for use on oxidized fiberglass boat hulls - "3M Marine Rubbing Compound". Not sure if the cap of your RV is fiberglass or some other material but it might be worth checking out.
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04-10-2012, 04:26 PM
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I'll try the rubbing compound when it warms up around noon, in the morning I'm contacting Keystone because I'm not sure what the nose is constructed with, me thinks it's molded plastic not fiberglass. I found a care manual, but all it talks about is GelCoat and fiberglass, I'm not going to get crazy with 400 grit sandpaper.
Thanks,
Tim
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Riley (Monster Yorkie)
2011 High Country 291RLS, SteadyFast, XM Radio, Awning Sun Shade.
2011 Ford F-150 Platinum, 6.2L, Max Tow Package
Voliant Ram Air, MagnaFlow Cat-Back, Hypertech Chip, On Board Lift Bags, Anzo Projector Headlights & LED Tailights, Pace Rolling Padded Hard Cover.
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04-11-2012, 06:36 AM
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Festus2,
Talked to Jamie at Keystone this morning, I wasn't sure what the composition of the nose was (wasn't the same as sidewalls) and he assured me that it was fiberglass and covered with gel coat, the Keystone care bulletin is correct tho if it were his he'd raise the wet/dry sandpaper to like 800. Since he had worked for a contractor that makes most of the caps, he recommended I start with a 3M product called Star Bright (marine use), and didn't recomend 303 on the dark parts, says it turns them a funky color (technical term) A shopping I will go
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Tim & Patty (RHDW Red Head Dear Wife)
Riley (Monster Yorkie)
2011 High Country 291RLS, SteadyFast, XM Radio, Awning Sun Shade.
2011 Ford F-150 Platinum, 6.2L, Max Tow Package
Voliant Ram Air, MagnaFlow Cat-Back, Hypertech Chip, On Board Lift Bags, Anzo Projector Headlights & LED Tailights, Pace Rolling Padded Hard Cover.
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04-11-2012, 06:52 AM
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Tim:
If you can find an inconspicious spot to see how the 3M Star Brite and the 800 sandpaper are working, that would be worth considering. If the back is the same gelcoated fiberglass as the front, could you try it out there first?
(When I say "you try it out" will "you" be doing it or your very capable multi-tasking wife, RHDW? And BTW, I'm still at my picnic table waiting for the TP to break up.)
Good luck with the restoration.......!
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04-11-2012, 07:33 AM
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Festus2,
And I'm still waiting for my grand prizes!!!! Well she was or has 3 sides done in Gel Gloss, and I'm thinking a small spot above the front running light on the drivers side would be only noticed by me (tho is will drive me crazy) I don't care what they say the 800grit sandpaper will be the last resort
As far a RHDW, the inside is hers and the outside is mine (execpt the roof, as 5'7" a buck and a quarter vs 6'1" 210 lbs, I'd like to keep the roof as long as I can ) same with the stick house ( I do allow her to park in MY garage tho). Should be above 50 this afternoon and will attack at 1400. I just wish I'd found this before the new graphics were installed by the dealer, course then I wish I had my grand prizes also
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Tim & Patty (RHDW Red Head Dear Wife)
Riley (Monster Yorkie)
2011 High Country 291RLS, SteadyFast, XM Radio, Awning Sun Shade.
2011 Ford F-150 Platinum, 6.2L, Max Tow Package
Voliant Ram Air, MagnaFlow Cat-Back, Hypertech Chip, On Board Lift Bags, Anzo Projector Headlights & LED Tailights, Pace Rolling Padded Hard Cover.
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04-11-2012, 07:40 AM
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I think this polish would be the ticket....
Description:
The most durable polish for all painted, fiberglass and metal surfaces. Easy to apply and provides a beautiful gloss that reduces drag while it repels dirt, grime and stains. Ideal for all fresh water and salt water marine applications.
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Features: The ultimate protection for fiberglass, metal and painted surfaces. Lasts up to 6 times longer than other marine waxes. UV inhibitors help prevent fading and oxidation. Easy to use - just wipe on, let dry, wipe off. Leaves a super-smooth, durable, no-stick coating that reduces drag as it repels dirt grime and stains.
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http://www.starbrite.com/productdeta...20%26%20Polish
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04-14-2012, 05:14 PM
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As the thread starter... Thanks for the responses. I just have not had time to "get 'r dun".
I did buy some recommended polish now... Fingers crossed for no weird color variations!
I want to take a better "Before" shot and of course an after shot... All as time permits.
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04-20-2012, 01:38 PM
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Update - DONE
I purchased the recommended 3M restoration wax and after washing everything, tackled the cap. Once I started (As you can see by the photo)I had no choice but to finish!!! Now I'll go back and polish with the star brite at some point.
A noticeable difference!
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05-01-2012, 03:49 PM
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Star Brite makes a "Marine Polish with Teflon" that I used for years on my boats with great satisfaction, you might give that a try. You can get it at West Marine or Boater's World.
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1992 Prowler 35' Bunkhouse
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06-30-2012, 01:39 PM
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Well $&(:-$>~#!!! It's faded again. Word is Keystone knows about the issue but won't deal with it. Nice as I see others fading as we travel around...
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07-01-2012, 06:14 PM
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Just checked my front cab and it is also fading. WTH!!! I wax mine at least once a month.
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