[hornet28]

I still think a dealer should be cleaning them up and making sure things work unless it's an as is deal. I'm 74 and I can't begin to count how many cars and trucks I've had but I've only bought three new. As far as buying from a dealer maybe a dozen including the new ones were bought from a dealer. if you don't know how to look past the "Lipstick" you might have a problem. I learned to do that years ago. If you don't mind taking the hit as soon as it's driven/pulled off the lot fine I don't care to do that. The last truck, 02 Chevy HD, I bought new I kept for 11 years only got rid of it because I wanted to go to a diesel, the one I have now