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Originally Posted by sourdough
Not being smart aleck but it's obvious you've never 1) pulled a trailer with a dry weight of 8000 lbs.- then loaded, with a 1/2 ton (been there, done that), and 2) don't know what you don't know about what you are going to carry. Heck, I probably carry a thousand pounds of stuff in the bed of my truck and THEN all the stuff in the trailer - a lot. Remember, it's a 1/2 ton. ANYTHING added to the trailer or put in the truck will cut that payload down or diminish any margin you have in gvw, gawr etc.
Just understand a 1/2 ton, no matter what you think its "capabilities" are, runs out of "carrying" capacity at about 7-8k IMO; if you want to be safe and have an enjoyable towing experience. Don't believe the hype about what its "towing" abilities are, they're pure BS. Some will tell you they are pulling the Titanic with a rubber band powered scooter and nothing could be better...believe that at your own peril.
You're thinking you will have the most conservative pin weight of 1700 on the trailer...with a payload of less than 2500 lbs., and a family weight of 500 lbs. conservatively; that's 2200..conservatively then you have the 5th wheel hitch (100???), toys, gear, tools, etc. You just need to think about what's going on. If you ask anyone on here that has been towing for a while I guarantee there will be a hundred things that are needed on a trip you haven't thought about. I will say I carry at least triple the amount of weight I thought I would carry when I started.
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Yup. I get lost as to where I am in the thread. But the fifth wheel has an unusual amount of ccc. We won’t use it all. Or even half of it. 2067 lbs? Nope. It just is not that big, and we don’t need to pack more than a small suitcase each. Kitchen utensils, coffee maker, pots, pans, flatware, fishing pole, yada yada. 500 lbs maybe. Two ebikes on the bumper will subtract pin weight, but weigh about 150 with the rack. Real world pin weight should come in around 1700, I’m pretty convinced of it.
Hitch is 40 lbs for the Andersen, 40 lbs for the B&W goose ball that it attaches to.
Wife, Myself, Dog, camera and crackers 500
Hitch 80
King pin 1700
2280. Payload is 2450
170 lbs headroom left.
That’s 200 INSIDE the envelope.
But again, how is a payload sticker, and tow ratings “hype”? I love a great discussion, but it cannot be based on alternative facts. Is it hype if the payload numbers are on a one ton? The truck i question basically has the rear axle of a 250, extra leaf springs, different shocks, thicker frame, taller gears, nearly 500 ft lbs torque etc. Is that all hype?