[jack65]

Originally Posted by sourdough

o find Hercules to remove them....after I had lifted the trailer/truck.

When you raise the truck/trailer with the jack raise until you feel that you have a little play in the bar at the L bracket..stop then. Remove the little bar retainer and either take the end of the bar and jerk it until it will clear to wherever you want it or, take a bar and place it behind the wdh bar, wedge it on the ground and pull backward; repeat until it is where you want. I used about a 5' length of 1" pipe (it had already been finished and painted). I no longer need it....usually. I will add that depending on where you are parked, and how you have to back to get back on the hitch, I've gotten where I open the bars wide so that it gives me some leeway on the angle hitching up without having to take the bar and pulling the swivels out further (I used the cheater bar for that too....much lighter than the wdh bars).

I'm a bit lost there, any chance you can post pics of the "cheater bar" and maybe what your doing? Like using a big crow bar between the bar and trailer bar?