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Chippewa93 07-18-2017 03:26 AM

Passport 3320BH Tow Vehicle
 
Any Passport 3320BH owners pulling with a half ton? My scale weight is 7,000 lbs with an equalizer hitch and I'm concerned it may be too much. Not necessarily the pulling (5.7 HEMI) but the stopping of the trailer. Will a 3/4 ton help improve the braking?


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ctbruce 07-18-2017 03:46 AM

Quick question. Is that weight your loaded weight?

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bsmith0404 07-18-2017 04:48 AM

The short answer, yes. You currently have a trailer that outweighs your truck. That in itself is not bad, many of us do, hard to find a tv that weighs over 15k lbs. but anytime you can have a TV that outweighs your trailer, with bigger breaks, different power train designed more for towing it will improve many aspects of towing not just braking distances.

busterbrown 07-18-2017 04:52 AM

That coach's dry weight is approximately 6600 lbs. Loaded, it could be well north of 7000 lbs. The truck, in general, will be underpowered in its powertrain and braking abilities. Ram 1/2 tons are also known to have the least amount of payload amount the big 3.

If I were you, I would invest in a three-quarter ton truck were you have plenty of reserve in payload, gcvw, gvwr, gawr, towing capacity, braking, and engine torque.

Good luck.

Chippewa93 07-18-2017 06:00 AM

The 7,000 lbs is fully loaded ready to camp. The spec sheet in the truck from Dodge says 8,600 max towing. So a 3/4 ton has better stopping power?


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JRTJH 07-18-2017 07:52 AM

Not to argue with you, but I think you really need to go back to the scales and reweigh your trailer. The specs for the 2015 model are listed as "TBD" but the 2016 model 3320BH (basically the same trailer) indicates that the shipping weight is 3320BHWE 6947 pounds. By the time you add a battery, hitch attachments and propane, you're going to be well north of 7000 pounds. So if you're saying that "fully loaded, ready to camp" your trailer weighs in at 7000 pounds, that scale weight may not have been accurate. I'd say you'll be much closer to 7500 possibly 8000 pounds "ready to camp".

Racebug 07-18-2017 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bsmith0404 (Post 247715)
The short answer, yes. You currently have a trailer that outweighs your truck. That in itself is not bad, many of us do, hard to find a tv that weighs over 15k lbs. but anytime you can have a TV that outweighs your trailer, with bigger breaks, different power train designed more for towing it will improve many aspects of towing not just braking distances.

using this logic, almost everyone would need a big diesel dually (7-8,000 lbs). There is no reason on earth your tow vehicle needs to weigh more than your trailer. If that were the case, I would need a big Peterbuilt with a large sleeper cab to pull my 417 that weighs a little less than 20,000 lbs. I don't disagree with a lot of the WP on here, but you must keep it within reason or you just run people off.
now I will wait for my slap on the hand.....:hide:

Mandolin 07-18-2017 09:00 AM

We tow with an F150 V8 (factory tow package, 3.73 rear). According to the scale, with the trailer and truck fully loaded, we are more than 2,000 lbs under the tow rating for the truck and about 1,500 lbs under the GVWR. We are quite comfortable towing with this setup.

The scale weight tells us we have about 650 lbs of stuff in the trailer, above the "shipping weight" (assuming the shipping weight can be believed, we never weighed the trailer dry). We have everything we need, but we also tow with all the tanks empty to keep weight down.

ctbruce 07-18-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chippewa93 (Post 247733)
The 7,000 lbs is fully loaded ready to camp. The spec sheet in the truck from Dodge says 8,600 max towing. So a 3/4 ton has better stopping power?


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Another question, I'm full of them today. Is the 8600 the door post sticker number or from Dodge advertising brochures?

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JRTJH 07-18-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandolin (Post 247762)
We tow with an F150 V8 (factory tow package, 3.73 rear). According to the scale, with the trailer and truck fully loaded, we are more than 2,000 lbs under the tow rating for the truck and about 1,500 lbs under the GVWR. We are quite comfortable towing with this setup.

The scale weight tells us we have about 650 lbs of stuff in the trailer, above the "shipping weight" (assuming the shipping weight can be believed, we never weighed the trailer dry). We have everything we need, but we also tow with all the tanks empty to keep weight down.

Please take a look at the part in red. Either you mistyped something or you're completely wrong. NO WAY is it possible to be 1500 pounds under GVWR on a truck with a 1600 pound payload when you're hitched to any trailer and have passengers in the truck.


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