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tdawg
06-06-2013, 03:33 AM
Looking at a 2008 f 350 6.4 Powerstroke never had a diesel before would like any input on this truck . Is a 60th Anniversary pkg whatever that is

muddynoll
06-06-2013, 04:12 AM
I traded up to a 04 F350 6.0 Diesel last year. Had to do some mods to hopefully correct some of the problems of the 6.0. The 6.4 you are looking at has twin turbo , a common rail fuel system, and more head bolts per cylinder, correcting some of the more common issues the 6.0 had. I know several people who have them and they love the power. Get an oasis report from a ford dealer to find out what the repair history is on it. It will tell you if there have been any major repairs. I don't know what you are towing , but moving up to the 1 ton was the best move I could have made.

tdawg
06-06-2013, 04:27 AM
Thanks, Towing a 3535 Alpine a diesel 1 ton will be next truck, currently have chev. 2500 454 4 10 Rear end and 1 ton springs

Hansel
06-06-2013, 04:33 AM
The 6.4L Powerstroke has great power, it uses a staged turbo system which means one turbo feeds the other. The biggest downside is they are know for poor fuel mileage, but here are a few forums where they have 6.4L forum sections so you can read about that engine, knowledge is key IMHO

http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/

http://powerstrokenation.com/forums/index.php

http://www.powerstrokehelp.com/

rhagfo
06-06-2013, 05:20 AM
Do your homework before buying a Ford 6.0 or 6.4, both had more than their fair share of issues.

You might think about a Dmax or Dodge, both have far better reliability than the Ford 6.*'s

I switched from Ford to Dodge as I didn't want a 6.*'s, and have never regretted it.

TandE
06-06-2013, 06:41 AM
Do your homework before buying a Ford 6.0 or 6.4, both had more than their fair share of issues.

You might think about a Dmax or Dodge, both have far better reliability than the Ford 6.*'s

I switched from Ford to Dodge as I didn't want a 6.*'s, and have never regretted it.

Every truck has their problems. An in this day in age where anyone who is pissed about something can go on the Internet and tell horror stories. It happens with every make and model. The ones who don't have problems usually don't go on to the Internet and preach about how good theirs is.

Look around the next time you drive and see how many of these trucks are still on the road and most of them have never had a wrench turned on them. Still running just fine. Do they have their issues? Of course that is why when buying one you need to check what the sensors are reading to get an idea of what's going on.

Mine has 149,2xx miles on it and has been tuned on a race tune since 88,xxx WITH NO head studs. And I use a tow tune when towing. The egr and egr cooler are gone but I just did that 20k ago. The only major items replaced was a turbo at 20k (warranty), and 1 injector at 130k The key to both the 6.0 and 6.4 is maintenance and driving them. If not done they will fail just like any other car or truck.

Dad use to have a 6.4 all stock and towed his 5er quite a bit and used it to drive to work everyday 110 miles round trip. Traded it for a 6.7 because he wanted a few more feature he didn't have on the 6.4. Only problem was a faulty snap ring in the tranny that disintegrated and cracked the housing.

Point is find a truck (ford, dodge, Chevy) that has the options and features that you want or need. Then make sure if buying used to have it checked out or check it out your self with a monitor of some sort (scan gauge, edge insight types) and look into forums regarding the truck you want to see what they should be. If it is a ford run the oasis report before hand as it will tell you what work has been done at the ford dealers wether under warranty or not. It won't tell you what has been done at places other than ford though. This way you can tell how much of a problem the truck may have been before hand.

Hansel
06-06-2013, 08:41 AM
Every truck has their problems. An in this day in age where anyone who is pissed about something can go on the Internet and tell horror stories. It happens with every make and model. The ones who don't have problems usually don't go on to the Internet and preach about how good theirs is.

Look around the next time you drive and see how many of these trucks are still on the road and most of them have never had a wrench turned on them. Still running just fine. Do they have their issues? Of course that is why when buying one you need to check what the sensors are reading to get an idea of what's going on.

Mine has 149,2xx miles on it and has been tuned on a race tune since 88,xxx WITH NO head studs. And I use a tow tune when towing. The egr and egr cooler are gone but I just did that 20k ago. The only major items replaced was a turbo at 20k (warranty), and 1 injector at 130k The key to both the 6.0 and 6.4 is maintenance and driving them. If not done they will fail just like any other car or truck.

Dad use to have a 6.4 all stock and towed his 5er quite a bit and used it to drive to work everyday 110 miles round trip. Traded it for a 6.7 because he wanted a few more feature he didn't have on the 6.4. Only problem was a faulty snap ring in the tranny that disintegrated and cracked the housing.

Point is find a truck (ford, dodge, Chevy) that has the options and features that you want or need. Then make sure if buying used to have it checked out or check it out your self with a monitor of some sort (scan gauge, edge insight types) and look into forums regarding the truck you want to see what they should be. If it is a ford run the oasis report before hand as it will tell you what work has been done at the ford dealers wether under warranty or not. It won't tell you what has been done at places other than ford though. This way you can tell how much of a problem the truck may have been before hand.

Some really valid points said above, granted the internet is a great tool for information, and trashing. If I had to replace my 7.3L, I'd look real hard for another 7.3L or go with the GMC duramax, as far as I know they really haven't made huge changes like Ford has going through 3 engine designs in the last 10yrs. I could go on almost forever with all the different stories about Ford and Cummins, Dodge with all the drivetrain issue's, etc.... My brother has a Chevy 2500HD and so far the only thing other than regular fluid changes is he replaced the stock fuel tank with a transflow tank that holds over 45 gallons of diesel. The only thing I don't like about his truck is it's too QUIET:yawn::yawn:

PS. Knock on wood my 7.3L has only had CPS issue, and a new tranny at almost 200,000 miles. And now with over 245,000 miles I'm proud that the truck has been mechanically bulletproof.

TandE
06-06-2013, 08:59 AM
Not knocking your 7.3 or anyone else's but I talked with a tech that SAID he saw reports that the 7.3 actually had more warranty claims than the 6.0. One reason the 7.3 is pretty much bullet proof is how long it has been around they know the fixes. The 6.0 fixes are out there they just can get spendy depending on how bad they got.

Again the warranty claims on the 7.3 were minor (CPS) but I thought they had water pump issues or fan issues too which if not caught in time could be very spendy also. One advantage as far as the 7.3 (and others) had was the Internet was in its infancy. The only way you heard bad about cars then was if you knew someone who had problems or it made the news or papers.

Also I agree with people on how you spend X amount on a truck the factory should fix the problems they have. But most people that complain buy used and try to for the least amount then blame someone else because it didn't last because of lack of maintenance on their part and the prior owner which probably dumped it because of that reason.

This probably sounds like a rant but trust me its not. I'm just rambling now :)

Hansel
06-06-2013, 09:26 AM
Not knocking your 7.3 or anyone else's but I talked with a tech that SAID he saw reports that the 7.3 actually had more warranty claims than the 6.0. One reason the 7.3 is pretty much bullet proof is how long it has been around they know the fixes. The 6.0 fixes are out there they just can get spendy depending on how bad they got.

Again the warranty claims on the 7.3 were minor (CPS) but I thought they had water pump issues or fan issues too which if not caught in time could be very spendy also. One advantage as far as the 7.3 (and others) had was the Internet was in its infancy. The only way you heard bad about cars then was if you knew someone who had problems or it made the news or papers.

Also I agree with people on how you spend X amount on a truck the factory should fix the problems they have. But most people that complain buy used and try to for the least amount then blame someone else because it didn't last because of lack of maintenance on their part and the prior owner which probably dumped it because of that reason.

This probably sounds like a rant but trust me its not. I'm just rambling now :)

I didn't think you where knocking my 7.3L, but that is an interesting that the 7.3L had more claims than a 6.0L, I've been very fortunate too have a good running 7.3L but I do keep the fluids changed on regular basis and I had some 2 stroke oil in the tank too keep those injectors happy. It's also a stock motor with no fancy tunes so maybe that another reason for the trouble free running, I honestly would not want too have to go out and replace my truck, I just don't want the headaches of all this new exhuast systems and fluids:eek:

TandE
06-06-2013, 09:31 AM
I'm not sure they had more claims than the 6.0 that is just what he the tech said. I have no facts to back it up.

The exhaust fluid is one reason I haven't bought a new 6.7. But more and more places have it now at the pump or at least inside in a container. My dad buys the stuff by the case and it lasts quite a while. After driving his I am more tempted to buy a newer one, the power is amazing, the price is not.

DJ85
06-06-2013, 09:42 AM
Do yourself a favor and check the maintance records. ;) Couple of questions 1. how many miles. 2. Any modifcations. 3. Oil changed on schedule. 4. Was the fuel filter changed and what kind of fuel did they put in it. (Bio or % 2 diesel fuel) 5. Check the ph of the coolant and what color is it. Kind of like everyones been saying do your homework and buy the truck you like. In my opinion the F-350 6.4l is a very good truck if you can answer the questions and like what you find. My only suggestion is to powerstroke.org or powerstrokenation and look around tons of info. There was a thread started by Andymon search his threads there was some good info in thier to read as well. Feel free to pm me if you want to know my experence with my 6.4l could not be happier, but I have done some mods to protect my investments. :D

crash
06-06-2013, 10:02 AM
Every truck has there problem,Some people as you can see hate ford some hate chevy and some hate dodge ,It just depends on what you like,can afford and this and that .I have a 2006 with the 6.0 all deleted with 170,000 on it and my main truck is the 2008 with the 6.4 I have around 150,000 miles and no problems with it at all,Just do your home work and go get it.Just my 2 cents.:D

tdawg
06-06-2013, 11:51 AM
thanks so much for the info will do my homework

SAABDOCTOR
06-06-2013, 12:22 PM
I'm off to get my helmet and flak jacket!!:eek: you all play nice! My truck is the best never broke gets 200 mpg boy a'm i a good liar or what;)

tomsws6
06-06-2013, 05:06 PM
I will say I moved up from a 1/2 ton to a 1 ton and the only problem I have is I wonder I didnt do it sooner! I was and still am a GM guy but when it came to a diesel I am not brand loyal. I looked at all three and the pro's and con's led me to the ford. Yes every truck has there issues but what won me over was the sheer interior room compared to the others and with my family needs it fit the bill. I also knew what I was looking at when it came to all three of the diesels. I did my homework and choose. I couldnt be more happy with my f350.

jsmith948
06-06-2013, 05:24 PM
I'm off to get my helmet and flak jacket!!:eek: you all play nice! My truck is the best never broke gets 200 mpg boy a'm i a good liar or what;)

My (enter brand of truck) is better than your (enter brand of truck) and no matter how much torque yours has mine has more and no matter how good your fuel mileage is mine is better!!! But it doesn't really matter because size doesn't matter???? :o :D

curlyfungirl
06-06-2013, 05:36 PM
my hubby has the 2012 F-350 and just loves it. It is only used for pulling the rig.

Cougarfamily
06-08-2013, 03:57 PM
Do your homework before buying a Ford 6.0 or 6.4, both had more than their fair share of issues.

You might think about a Dmax or Dodge, both have far better reliability than the Ford 6.*'s

I switched from Ford to Dodge as I didn't want a 6.*'s, and have never regretted it.

You don't ever skip a chance to take a jab, do you?

Traded in a '06 Dodge CTD last year for a 6.0 Ford, and have no regrets either. Every Dodge truck I have owned had their fair share of problems.

DJ85
06-09-2013, 07:41 AM
Take it easy now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

JRTJH
06-09-2013, 08:18 AM
OK Gentlemen,

Idle your engines and let's get back to the topic. The OP asked for information on a 2008 F350 with 6.4L diesel engine and wanted to know about that truck. Objective comparison (not subjective opinion) is appropriate, but the "my truck is better" or "your truck is no better" or "Chevy/Dodge/Ford/GMC is better" is not a topic that will ever be productive. All you'll do is upset someone by expressing an opinion that just won't help the topic.

Let's agree to disagree on the "better than" issue and help the OP with constructive tips based on facts about the 2008 F350 6.4 L diesel truck he is interested in buying, not personal opinions about something that might be better.

Thanks,

tdawg
06-09-2013, 12:51 PM
Thanks, John

BeaverRZR
06-10-2013, 11:25 AM
i have an '08 f350 6.4L and while it is a great truck, the fuel mileage sucks. At best i get 7-8mpg towing 15,000lbs. I had to replace the radiator but other than that it has been a problem free rig with the exception of general maint items.
There are a handful of things you can do to increase power and mileage. Im going to remove the dpf/egr systems in the not too distant future.

Before this truck i had an '06 ram with the 5.9 cummins. That truck would pull like 10 Mothers but it ate tires and front end components like candy. Had to replace front ball joints, tie rods/ends, u joints, twice in a 20k miles stretch.

All 3 have there issues but all brands make a good rig. I just prefer some of the comforts and the look of the Ford

SAABDOCTOR
06-10-2013, 11:45 AM
JEEPERS JOHN I was having fun watching all them trucks flying over the bunker!!!! It reminds me of two pilots arguing about which is better high wing or low wing. then the low wing guy was talking about a bird strike he had. i asked the high wing guy,ever hit a bird? nope! well there you go low wing guy if you had a high wing you would not have hit the bird!!. yea i had to run out of the lounge after that one!:D sure is fun reading all these "my trucks better" posts.. by the way how is the repair on your camper going?:banghead:

Trent McCain
06-10-2013, 02:26 PM
I upgraded from an ordered new '08 F150 SuperCrew Lariat to the gently used '09 F350 diesel in our sig. Love everything about it except the mileage is poor. 7-8.5 towing the 5th and boat in tandem depending on idle time and headwind. Around 15.5 empty. It's stock and pulls like a freight train. We didn't buy it for a daily driver, and we put around 5K mi a year on it, so we live with the poorer mileage. I can buy a lot of fuel for the extra payment on a new one. Also Kansas charges property tax on vehicles, and this one is getting old enough it's easier to handle. My budget didn't dictate a new one, but if yours may, you might consider the 2011+ Ford with the 6.7. My parents ordered one new and they pull a 2012 Montana Mountaineer. On ave it'll do 17.5 empty and 8-10 loaded. I don't consider that terrible, and it pulls better than my 6.4.

Trent

rode2nowhere
06-10-2013, 02:44 PM
How about Duramax? I bought the 2004 duramax with the lb7 engine which is supposed to be bad about injectors going kaput. I had a VIN search done and they have never been changed. I figure if they go bad I can replace them myself even though a big job and pricey. Truck has never missed a lick and I am happy with it.

JRTJH
06-10-2013, 06:51 PM
JEEPERS JOHN I was having fun watching all them trucks flying over the bunker!!!! It reminds me of two pilots arguing about which is better high wing or low wing. then the low wing guy was talking about a bird strike he had. i asked the high wing guy,ever hit a bird? nope! well there you go low wing guy if you had a high wing you would not have hit the bird!!. yea i had to run out of the lounge after that one!:D sure is fun reading all these "my trucks better" posts.. by the way how is the repair on your camper going?:banghead:

Barney,

Real "aeroplanes" have propedders, high wings and wing struts. Those low wing jobs must be "bird magnets" eh??? The new things that suck and blow are some kind of magic air machines (jets) and they are far from bug smashers.....

The camper is in for repair, approved and waiting its turn in line. They are supposed to start ripping the roof off next Monday and we should have it back on June 26th. (I am NOT holding my breath) LOL

Last Friday, Saturday and again today, we've "motored" to various RV dealerships in the vicinity looking at new Cougar 26SAB's and 27RKS's. My DW just isn't real thrilled with the prospect of a total roof job. I'm thinking it will probably be as good as new, besides, the EPDM will be new rather than almost 4 years old..... But, she who must be obeyed is encouraging me to trade it for a "nicer" trailer since we will need the storage space this winter for our trip to Key West for Jan/Feb..... So, I'm thinking that I'll probably wind up in the "which Ford is better for towing" discussion pretty soon.....

Thank goodness I've had two 7.3 L Fords and both were great trucks, so if the budget allows, it's a 6.7, but if "she who must be obeyed" moves up any more expensive than the 27RKS, I'll probably be "forced" to look toward the 6.4 L..... Remember, I just built a 32x24x14 polebarn, so I'm hoping she doesn't decide to go longer than about 31 ft <YIKES> :eek:

joeyb
06-11-2013, 05:48 AM
Like anything maintenance is key. I've towed with each of the big three. Just keep up with Coolant, Oil, and Fuel changes / filters. Have had no big issues with mine average 11.6 mpg towing our Outback. Its been a great truck for us. Noticed a difference from our old Aluminum sided Holiday Rambler (shorter and lighter) to I'm guessing the molded front cap on the new TT (longer and heavier) an small increase in mpg was always 10.9 flat towing. Anyhow maintenance has always been huge on the diesels and usually, not always a failure can be traced back to lack of maintenance. Its easy to caught up in each horror story. Keeping the truck in its perimeter of what its designed for helps too:)

tomsws6
06-11-2013, 05:48 AM
"she who must be obeyed" :eek:

Who is this "she who must be obeyed" mythical creature you speak off? I AM A MAN! I rule the house. It is my kingdom and all those that dwell in it live under my rule of law! "she who must be obeyed" HA I know of no such creature! Hey, Ill be back. I forgot to mow the lawn and she uh or uh it has to be done cause uh I said so.

Hansel
06-11-2013, 06:48 AM
Who is this "she who must be obeyed" mythical creature you speak off? I AM A MAN! I rule the house. It is my kingdom and all those that dwell in it live under my rule of law! "she who must be obeyed" HA I know of no such creature! Hey, Ill be back. I forgot to mow the lawn and she uh or uh it has to be done cause uh I said so.

LMBO

Now that is funny"bouncey:"bouncey:"bouncey:

JRTJH
06-11-2013, 07:14 AM
Who is this "she who must be obeyed" mythical creature you speak off? I AM A MAN! I rule the house. It is my kingdom and all those that dwell in it live under my rule of law! "she who must be obeyed" HA I know of no such creature! Hey, Ill be back. I forgot to mow the lawn and she uh or uh it has to be done cause uh I said so.

HEHE You obviously sleep more nights in your RV than I do in mine.........:D